370z crashed at VIR? member here?

Sharif@Forged · 12-09-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by speedworks

Yeah, I don't think he came in too hot, if so he would have gone off driver's left, not right - I've done it, the momentum throws you off the track, down the hill. And trailbraking at a first HPDE is not a problem; as an experienced driver, there is nothing wrong with promoting/teaching that early on. I do agree he turned in too early, and he forgot the all important, when in a spin, 2 feet in. It is a track day, not a race, so once you are out of control, don't risk trying to power out of it, just hit the brakes.

As for iracing.com, I agree to do that, it actually has my race car as an option (spec racer ford), and I have tested that system before and it is probably the best out there.

At least he had a positive attitude, and will fix it, and hopefully have fun again.

I think this most accurately summed it up. Obviously, I don't think anyone is critisizing the driver, but we can all learn from mistakes and make this a teach-able moment as our President is fond of saying.

When you track your car long enough, it's only a matter of time before you go off-roading and hit something....hopefully something soft.

Here is one of my laps at VIR a couple months ago. Forward to 1:40 to view the same section of track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r-xvHyuTXs
Just a hair later on turn in, gradually apply power and the car will naturally track to the outside.

It's hard to gauge speed in the video, but I am inclinded to think there may have been something on track or slippery. Either way, a quicker lift of the throttle, a faster correction and/or full lock braking if needed would have kept the car off the barrier. Live and learn, and get back in the saddle quickly.

speedworks · 12-09-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged

When you track your car long enough, it's only a matter of time before you go off-roading and hit something....hopefully something soft.

And this is why I have a dedicated race car - I just don't want to wreck my DD. Think about all of things that could happen: you spin, someone spins you, you hit someone whose spun, you have a car failure, a tire failure, .....

Here is my racetrack DD

KillerBee370 · 12-09-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by speedworks

And this is why I have a dedicated race car - I just don't want to wreck my DD. Think about all of things that could happen: you spin, someone spins you, you hit someone whose spun, you have a car failure, a tire failure, .....

Here is my racetrack DD

That's all fine and dandy but mostly the point of driving your DD (even if it's not really a DD as in my case) at the track on a day of hotlapping is really to see what your individual car will do and what you are comfortable with. If I had a dedicated race car, I would be doing just that... racing. Hotlapping and racing are two very different things.

speedworks · 12-09-2009, 08:12 PM

^^ I agree, but it is a lot of wear/tear on a car that you hope to drive the next day, every day, which is the point I am making. Plus the red mist will always get to you, as this example shows, and now you are in a rental car. You can always find the limits of your car in slower speed events like auto-x (did that for 5 years), and really tighten your driving skills, and find the limits of your car, in the typical speed range you would be in on the roads.

If you really looked at the dollars you put into a DD to put it on the track, you could easily buy a dedicated race car - there are cheap ones out there, and I guarantee you will have just as much fun, and it will be safer. I have seen too many DD's wrecked at an event, either poorly instructed, or poorly insured, and the car is totalled, and the driver is injured - no 5 point seat belts, no rollcages, firesuits, fuel cutoff, HANS, etc.

Mike · 12-09-2009, 08:24 PM

yep, my 370 is pretty much my dedicated track car, but I do drive it on the streets also. My C6 is my back up street car, but I'm not sure how long its gonna be until I totally strip and cage the Z, and take it off the streets altogether.

Sharif@Forged · 12-09-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

yep, my 370 is pretty much my dedicated track car, but I do drive it on the streets also. My C6 is my back up street car, but I'm not sure how long its gonna be until I totally strip and cage the Z, and take it off the streets altogether.

I'll give it until the New Years.

Mike · 12-10-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged

I'll give it until the New Years.

no, a little longer than that, since its street season for a couple months! No track days until march or april.

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12-09-2009, 08:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
speedworks Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 550 Drives: PW purchased 01/09 Rep Power: 19	^^ I agree, but it is a lot of wear/tear on a car that you hope to drive the next day, every day, which is the point I am making. Plus the red mist will always get to you, as this example shows, and now you are in a rental car. You can always find the limits of your car in slower speed events like auto-x (did that for 5 years), and really tighten your driving skills, and find the limits of your car, in the typical speed range you would be in on the roads. If you really looked at the dollars you put into a DD to put it on the track, you could easily buy a dedicated race car - there are cheap ones out there, and I guarantee you will have just as much fun, and it will be safer. I have seen too many DD's wrecked at an event, either poorly instructed, or poorly insured, and the car is totalled, and the driver is injured - no 5 point seat belts, no rollcages, firesuits, fuel cutoff, HANS, etc.