the 370Z.com OFFICIAL football (soccer) thread

Originally Posted by phelan

when you have a captain stuck in between london and barcelona, and just barely beat the sp*rs to third place in the EPL, we take our victories wherever we can get them.

to arsenal he is a ******* god. look at the difference in the team when he played versus when he was injured. i'm not saying he's cesc, but he's got the innate ability to turn something out of almost nothing. his greatest knock is that he can't manufacturing even 25% of his capability on his right foot, it's weak as hell.

Well look at Bayern. Yeah they have improved greatly with Robben and yes he has scored some insane goals to bring them to the CL final. But I dont know....I just see it more as a team effort. Yeah Robben has be absolutely dirty this season for Bayern but how good would they be without TEAM WORK?

The thing is its not just RVP who is Arsenal. Things build up from defense/midfield to bring it to the attackers. For example, how would Bayern be without Schweinsteiger who matured into arguably one of the best midfielders in the world currently?

Ever since I've played sports as a kid I've had "there is no I in team" drilled into my head...and I still stand by that today.

[phelan]

Originally Posted by blue660r01

Ever since I've played sports as a kid I've had "there is no I in team" drilled into my head...and I still stand by that today.

Okay so I'm still pissed off about the news' unending stream of bullsh*t surrounding Cesc, so kind of irritated. But:

(Arsenal rant)
I'm all for "there is no I in team", but like you said, every player is an important link in the overall chain.

Goalkeeping - don't even get me started with how awful we are here...so let's play dumb here and forget our GKs are ****.

The defensive line, for the better part of the season, was pretty good. Sagna, Gallas, and the Verminator, and bringing Campbell back was quite a surprise. Clichy was **** 90% of the season but looked to recover at the end; sad if he leaves for Barca though. Next year we should be decent if Djourou recovers fully, as does Gibbs. That's assuming replacing Gallas with someone good (read: Hangeland) as well.

The midfield was superb by virtue of the skipper, and Nasri, Song, and Ramsey (pre WTFSHAWCROSSYOUFUCKINGCUNT injury) also deserve praise. Even Abou Diaby, dumbass that he is with no vision whatsoever, made his runs well when they were available. Or he just bulldozed them. Which was fun to watch sometimes.

But Arsenal has LONG been regarded as playing beautiful football, providing excellent setups, but poor finish. Arshavin? Out of position. Bendtner? Head too big to figure out how to make a proper header, and can't seem to finish on chippies. Walcott? All speed, nothing more yet. Eduardo? I'm sorry, but he's done, his confidence in making strong attacks on goal is just gone since his injury. Who does that leave? Vela (rofl), and...yeah, Robin van Persie when he's healthy. Arsenal has NO better target man than RvP.

That's why having RvP healthy is so critical. The forwards just haven't stepped up IMO. So no, he does not MAKE the team, if anybody wants to make a conjecture like that, it's FABREGAS who makes the team. But judging from the bench in the forward position, Robin was really the one quality striker we had, and his presence on the pitch makes a monstrous impact on the game. Hopefully with us adding Chamakh we add a little more quality to the front line though.
(/Arsenal rant)

Back to WC2010: World Cup 2010 - On-form Germany score 24 - Yahoo! Eurosport

I cracked up at this. That's kind of a douchebag move to score 24, though hahahaah. But is it just me, or is Germany's midfield getting really thin? First Ballack, now Trasch? I guess I'm not familiar enough with them to make any judgment calls.

Also, it sucks for Ghana losing Essien. That's HUGE for their team.

Mexico is such garbage btw. Nobody ever believes it. Look at that scoreline and imagine how much worse it would be with the Netherlands 2 best players.

Not going good for Germanys midfield. Ballacks likely replacement is now injured

Germany have suffered another World Cup injury blow after it was confirmed midfielder Christian Trasch will miss the tournament after spraining an ankle in a warm-up game on Monday night.

Trasch lasted just eight minutes of the 4-0 friendly win over FC Sudtirol before being helped from the field. And assistant boss Hans-Dieter Flick confirmed the Stuttgart man has now been ruled out of the finals in South Africa after being ordered to rest the joint for four weeks.

He said: "Christian Trasch will not be available for us at the World Cup. It's disappointing news as Christian would have been in our final squad.''

Germany boss Joachim Low has to trim his party to 23 by June 1 with central midfield the biggest area of concern as captain Michael Ballack and Bayer Leverkusen's Simon Rolfes have already been ruled out.

You could consider a lot of players goals "world class" though

[Red370]

Originally Posted by blue660r01

You could consider a lot of players goals "world class" though

but do they score those kinds of goals on a regular basis? RvP does, yeah, Messi is great with the ball at his feet, but how many volleys from 25+ yards has he scored? Kid has a left foot that gives Steven Seagal nightmares.

I am seeing the Golden boot between Klose and Milito

[Red370]

RvP and Drogba, David Villa has a shot as well, Milito is good, but doesnt have a left foot.

Originally Posted by Red370

RvP and Drogba, David Villa has a shot as well, Milito is good, but doesnt have a left foot.

Idk...I dont see RVP because the Netherlands have too many attacking options
Drogba no because they will not make it far enough
Villa...I considered...but then again Spain have too many options. Especially if Torres will be healthy by the WC. If not...then yes he is a high possibility.

Reasons I picked Milito and Klose:

Klose is a balanced attacker. He has a sense of where to be at the right times. Not only that, but he is insane when it comes to headers. In 2002, all of his goals were headers. Podolski is good when he throws on a Germany jersey but I see him feeding Klose mostly.

Milito....I dont even need to mention it haha. He is just too good.

[Red370]

Originally Posted by blue660r01

Idk...I dont see RVP because the Netherlands have too many attacking options
Drogba no because they will not make it far enough
Villa...I considered...but then again Spain have too many options. Especially if Torres will be healthy by the WC. If not...then yes he is a high possibility.

Reasons I picked Milito and Klose:

Klose is a balanced attacker. He has a sense of where to be at the right times. Not only that, but he is insane when it comes to headers. In 2002, all of his goals were headers. Podolski is good when he throws on a Germany jersey but I see him feeding Klose mostly.

Milito....I dont even need to mention it haha. He is just too good.

Dont get me wrong, Klose is an amazing header of the ball and especially adept at poaching near the goal, but Germany has alot of excellent goal scorers as well, I dunno, we'll see. Milito is amazing as well, but if you watched the Bayern game, notice how every time he gets the ball near the box, he'll pull the ball back and shoot with his right foot, I think well coached teams will know how to defend him. However, his compatriot Messi scores with both feet and makes keepers shit themselves and vomit simultaneously any time he gets the ball inside the 18, lets not count him out either.

Originally Posted by Red370

Dont get me wrong, Klose is an amazing header of the ball and especially adept at poaching near the goal, but Germany has alot of excellent goal scorers as well, I dunno, we'll see. Milito is amazing as well, but if you watched the Bayern game, notice how every time he gets the ball near the box, he'll pull the ball back and shoot with his right foot, I think well coached teams will know how to defend him. However, his compatriot Messi scores with both feet and makes keepers shit themselves and vomit simultaneously any time he gets the ball inside the 18, lets not count him out either.

Well this will be a new German team. They are definitely known for their attacking...as well as their size and power especially in the midfield. I do like their attack options but I just have a feeling about Klose. I cannot explain it though lol

Yeah I agree on Milito....well...I am STRONGLY disagreeing on that "well coached team" comment. Van Gaal is one of the best coaches out there now. Its just that the CBs are the weak link for Bayern and were exploited. That has nothing to do with their coaching. Bayerns CBs werent able to contain him...end of story. If they had Lucio in there however Milito woulda been shut out. But with the speed of Argentina I just see his ability to score. Look at the 1st goal I believe. Julio Cesar punted up field and 3 touches later the ball was in the back of the net. SPEED lol.

Not counting Messi out....but he is just garbage on Argentina and everyone knows it.


As for RVP.....I think Robben is the only threat to him not having a shot lol. We all know how Robben likes to hold onto the ball.

Hey Red...Your opinion..Do you think Klose will tie/pass Ronaldo for all time goals?

15 goals

* Brazil Ronaldo

14 goals

* Germany Gerd Müller

13 goals

* France Just Fontaine

12 goals

* Brazil Pelé

11 goals

* Germany Jürgen Klinsmann
* Hungary Sándor Kocsis

10 goals

* Argentina Gabriel Batistuta
* Peru Teófilo Cubillas
* Germany Miroslav Klose
* Poland Grzegorz Lato
* England Gary Lineker
* Germany Helmut Rahn

This song ftw btw

lol @ 24 goals

[cow]

Originally Posted by Red370

did you see that second goal? world class.

Both goals were Bergkamp-esque.