De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao

MC · 12-01-2008, 10:25 PM

anyone gonna watch this on saturday?

thoughts?

Maynard · 12-03-2008, 07:18 PM

I'm not going to see it, but I'm rooting for Pacquiao. Last time I saw a De La Hoya fight, he put me to sleep. Who's favored to win?

Maynard · 12-06-2008, 11:45 PM

ESPN - Dominant Pacquiao stops De La Hoya in eighth round

Pacquiao turns 'dream fight' into nightmare for De La Hoya

Associated Press
Updated: December 7, 2008, 12:02 AM ET

LAS VEGAS -- Manny Pacquiao fought a lot bigger than he looked. Oscar De La Hoya simply looked old.

Pacquiao dominated his bigger and more famous opponent from the opening bell Saturday night, giving De La Hoya a beating and closing his left eye before De La Hoya declined to come out of his corner after the eighth round.

The fight was so lopsided and De La Hoya looked so inept that it could spell the end for boxing's richest and most marketable star.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

Slidefox · 12-06-2008, 11:47 PM

At least it went eight rounds!!

Maynard · 12-06-2008, 11:54 PM

I admit I'm not a rabid boxing fan, but I do like it and I watch a decent amount. I can't recall ever watching this happen at a fight, let alone a fight with a HUGE name like De La Hoya:

"giving De La Hoya a beating and closing his left eye before De La Hoya declined to come out of his corner after the eighth round."

Now I have to see a re-broadcast of that fight! Or I'll find it on the net

Maynard · 12-07-2008, 12:03 AM

Actually, I guess I mis-read that. Same as throwing in the towel I guess. I wonder if it was Oscars decision or his trainers.

Here's a good play by play description from L.A. Times:

Round 1: De La Hoya said at the final pre-fight media conference that he had come up with a couple of strategies for the fight but wouldn't decide which one to use until he left the dressing room. The one he chose apparently called on him to be aggressive, going after the smaller Pacquiao, just missing with an uppercut about 30 seconds into the bout. Pacquiao wasn't backing down, through, throwing some punches of his own before being caught along the ropes with about 45 seconds left in the round. There were a couple of good toe-to-toe exchances, many of which Pacquiao got the best of.

Paqcuiao wins the round, 10-9.

Round 2: Power and a five-inch-reach advantage figured to be the two biggest assets for De La Hoya, who is fighting below 150 pounds for the first time in nearly eight years. Because of that some expected the normally aggressive Pacquiao to keep his distance, neutralizing De La Hoya's strength while taking advantage of his own speed and stamina. But Pacquiao continued to fight straight ahead, going right after De La Hoya. With the pro-Pacquiao crowd chanting "Pacy, Pacy, Pacy," Pacquiao kept the fight in the middle of the ring for most of the round. With 1:25 left De La Hoya got off a good combination but Pacquiao didn't appear to feel it. He later came back and stung De La Hoya with a strong right to the head. De La Hoya countered, chasing Pacquiao with three straight right jabs -- all of which missed.

Pacquiao wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 20-18.

Round 3: Pacquiao, who entered the ring a nearly 2-1 underdog, continues to find De La Hoya with a right jab, though the punch seems to have little sting. And when De La Hoya tries to counterpunch, the Filipino does a good job of covering up. When De La Hoya does connect, it's usually with a soft body punch. With 22 seconds left in the round, Pacquiao got off a straight shot to the head that stopped De La Hoya but didn't hurt him.

Pacquiao wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 30-27.

Round 4: De La Hoya, who won his first 31 professional fights, hasn't won consecutive bouts since 2002 – and he looked unimpressive his last time out in May, when he beat Steve Forbes. And Pacquiao, with his quickness, seems to have little trouble getting off shots, then ducking the return blows. Halfway through the round, the two fighters exchange combinations but Pacquiao seemed to get the better of the exchange, and with 1:14 to go he snaps De La Hoya's head back with a right hand. De La Hoya's counterattacks appear desperate and the lithe Pacquiao ducks them easily.

Pacquiano wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 40-36.

Round 5: Pacquiao weighed in at a svelte 142 pounds, though that represents a big step up for the WBC lightweight champion, who has never fought above 134 -- and who started his professional career at 106 pounds. But the heavier, stronger De La Hoya has been no match for him so far. He face red and his brow furrowed in both concentration and worry, De La Hoya gets stung by a strong right about a minute in. Over the next 40 seconds, Pacquiao lands several punches and De La Hoya appears powerless to stop him. Late in the round Pacquiao changes tactics slightly, throwing combinations that start at the end of the belt to change De La Hoya's eye level. Clearly flustered, De La Hoya enlivens his fans slightly by connecting with a couple of shots in the closing seconds but they're body shots that don't appear to faze Pacquiao.

Pacquiao wins the round 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 50-45.

Round 6: De La Hoya, a step slower and already contemplating retirement at 35, was given an edge in experience coming into the fight even though the 29-year-old Pacquiao, with 52 pro bouts, has fought eight more times than his opponent. In any case it was age, not experience, that separated these fighters coming in and De La Hoya clearly looks like an old fighter. Pacquiao, going after De La Hoya's head again, lands several shots early in the round that has his foe backing up. De La Hoya's left eye is red and swelling but Pacquiao looks untouched. Pacquiao is measuring him with the right, looking for an opening with the left.

Pacquiao wins round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 60-54.

Round 7: This bout provided an interesting matchup of trainers as well with legendary Mexican Nacho Beristein in De La Hoya's corner and Freddie Roach, who once trained De La Hoya, now guiding Pacquiao. Beristein, who may know more about Pacquiao than any other trainer, came close to beating the Filipino twice with Juan Manuel Marquez and that knowledge. But Pacquiao is clearly the better fighter so far. De Le Hoya, backed into his corner halfway through the round, appears defenseless. Pacquiao keeps at the assault, getting over several five- and six-round combinations. De La Hoya has no response and nearly goes down twice before escaping to the other side of the ring. But Pacquiao follows and continues the withering assault. Again, De La Hoya has no answer. De La Hoya's left eye is getting worse and Pacquiao is growing more confident, at one point late in the round throwing his hands up at his side as if the challenge De La Hoya.

Pacquiao wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 70-63.

Round 8: With the possible exception of the first one, De La Hoya hasn't come close to winning a round. And this one was no different. After backing him into a corner, Pacquiao got off another punishing series of punches with De La Hoya offering no resistance. De La Hoya's left eye is almost closed now and the right one is swelling. With less than 10 seconds left, De La Hoya is backed into a corner again where Pacquiao nailed him with a hard left head, then a right to the body, then a left to the head. Again, De La Hoya can do nothing but take it.

Pacquiao wins in dominating fashion again, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 80-72.

Round 9: Technically, there was no Round 9. When the bell rang to start it, Pacquiao came off his stool but De La Hoya remained seated with his corner waving off the Filipino, telling referee Tony Weeks their fighter was done.

Pacquiao wins with an eighth round technical knockout.

FYI: Two of the three judges gave Pacquiao every round, with one judge giving De La Hoya the first round. The scorecards were 79-72, 80-71 and 80-71 for Pacquiao.

onethreefive · 12-07-2008, 02:40 AM

It was a great fight for manny, and a tough one for Oscar. The decision to stop was actually from Oscar's trainer and the ringside doctor. He was just taking a beating the last rounds so I think it was a good idea to stop the fight. For the people that missed the fight I'll see if I can get the clip of the last rounds.

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Maynard · 12-07-2008, 01:18 PM

Thanks for the movie link. Oscar was getting brutalized!

12-01-2008, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 23	De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao anyone gonna watch this on saturday? thoughts?

12-06-2008, 11:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Maynard Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 88 Drives: old faithful Rep Power: 300	Awesome :) ESPN - Dominant Pacquiao stops De La Hoya in eighth round Pacquiao turns 'dream fight' into nightmare for De La Hoya Associated Press Updated: December 7, 2008, 12:02 AM ET LAS VEGAS -- Manny Pacquiao fought a lot bigger than he looked. Oscar De La Hoya simply looked old. Pacquiao dominated his bigger and more famous opponent from the opening bell Saturday night, giving De La Hoya a beating and closing his left eye before De La Hoya declined to come out of his corner after the eighth round. The fight was so lopsided and De La Hoya looked so inept that it could spell the end for boxing's richest and most marketable star. Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

12-06-2008, 11:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
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12-07-2008, 12:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
Maynard Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 88 Drives: old faithful Rep Power: 300	Actually, I guess I mis-read that. Same as throwing in the towel I guess. I wonder if it was Oscars decision or his trainers. Here's a good play by play description from L.A. Times: Round 1: De La Hoya said at the final pre-fight media conference that he had come up with a couple of strategies for the fight but wouldn't decide which one to use until he left the dressing room. The one he chose apparently called on him to be aggressive, going after the smaller Pacquiao, just missing with an uppercut about 30 seconds into the bout. Pacquiao wasn't backing down, through, throwing some punches of his own before being caught along the ropes with about 45 seconds left in the round. There were a couple of good toe-to-toe exchances, many of which Pacquiao got the best of. Paqcuiao wins the round, 10-9. Round 2: Power and a five-inch-reach advantage figured to be the two biggest assets for De La Hoya, who is fighting below 150 pounds for the first time in nearly eight years. Because of that some expected the normally aggressive Pacquiao to keep his distance, neutralizing De La Hoya's strength while taking advantage of his own speed and stamina. But Pacquiao continued to fight straight ahead, going right after De La Hoya. With the pro-Pacquiao crowd chanting "Pacy, Pacy, Pacy," Pacquiao kept the fight in the middle of the ring for most of the round. With 1:25 left De La Hoya got off a good combination but Pacquiao didn't appear to feel it. He later came back and stung De La Hoya with a strong right to the head. De La Hoya countered, chasing Pacquiao with three straight right jabs -- all of which missed. Pacquiao wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 20-18. Round 3: Pacquiao, who entered the ring a nearly 2-1 underdog, continues to find De La Hoya with a right jab, though the punch seems to have little sting. And when De La Hoya tries to counterpunch, the Filipino does a good job of covering up. When De La Hoya does connect, it's usually with a soft body punch. With 22 seconds left in the round, Pacquiao got off a straight shot to the head that stopped De La Hoya but didn't hurt him. Pacquiao wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 30-27. Round 4: De La Hoya, who won his first 31 professional fights, hasn't won consecutive bouts since 2002 – and he looked unimpressive his last time out in May, when he beat Steve Forbes. And Pacquiao, with his quickness, seems to have little trouble getting off shots, then ducking the return blows. Halfway through the round, the two fighters exchange combinations but Pacquiao seemed to get the better of the exchange, and with 1:14 to go he snaps De La Hoya's head back with a right hand. De La Hoya's counterattacks appear desperate and the lithe Pacquiao ducks them easily. Pacquiano wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 40-36. Round 5: Pacquiao weighed in at a svelte 142 pounds, though that represents a big step up for the WBC lightweight champion, who has never fought above 134 -- and who started his professional career at 106 pounds. But the heavier, stronger De La Hoya has been no match for him so far. He face red and his brow furrowed in both concentration and worry, De La Hoya gets stung by a strong right about a minute in. Over the next 40 seconds, Pacquiao lands several punches and De La Hoya appears powerless to stop him. Late in the round Pacquiao changes tactics slightly, throwing combinations that start at the end of the belt to change De La Hoya's eye level. Clearly flustered, De La Hoya enlivens his fans slightly by connecting with a couple of shots in the closing seconds but they're body shots that don't appear to faze Pacquiao. Pacquiao wins the round 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 50-45. Round 6: De La Hoya, a step slower and already contemplating retirement at 35, was given an edge in experience coming into the fight even though the 29-year-old Pacquiao, with 52 pro bouts, has fought eight more times than his opponent. In any case it was age, not experience, that separated these fighters coming in and De La Hoya clearly looks like an old fighter. Pacquiao, going after De La Hoya's head again, lands several shots early in the round that has his foe backing up. De La Hoya's left eye is red and swelling but Pacquiao looks untouched. Pacquiao is measuring him with the right, looking for an opening with the left. Pacquiao wins round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 60-54. Round 7: This bout provided an interesting matchup of trainers as well with legendary Mexican Nacho Beristein in De La Hoya's corner and Freddie Roach, who once trained De La Hoya, now guiding Pacquiao. Beristein, who may know more about Pacquiao than any other trainer, came close to beating the Filipino twice with Juan Manuel Marquez and that knowledge. But Pacquiao is clearly the better fighter so far. De Le Hoya, backed into his corner halfway through the round, appears defenseless. Pacquiao keeps at the assault, getting over several five- and six-round combinations. De La Hoya has no response and nearly goes down twice before escaping to the other side of the ring. But Pacquiao follows and continues the withering assault. Again, De La Hoya has no answer. De La Hoya's left eye is getting worse and Pacquiao is growing more confident, at one point late in the round throwing his hands up at his side as if the challenge De La Hoya. Pacquiao wins the round, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 70-63. Round 8: With the possible exception of the first one, De La Hoya hasn't come close to winning a round. And this one was no different. After backing him into a corner, Pacquiao got off another punishing series of punches with De La Hoya offering no resistance. De La Hoya's left eye is almost closed now and the right one is swelling. With less than 10 seconds left, De La Hoya is backed into a corner again where Pacquiao nailed him with a hard left head, then a right to the body, then a left to the head. Again, De La Hoya can do nothing but take it. Pacquiao wins in dominating fashion again, 10-9. Pacquiao leads, 80-72. Round 9: Technically, there was no Round 9. When the bell rang to start it, Pacquiao came off his stool but De La Hoya remained seated with his corner waving off the Filipino, telling referee Tony Weeks their fighter was done. Pacquiao wins with an eighth round technical knockout. FYI: Two of the three judges gave Pacquiao every round, with one judge giving De La Hoya the first round. The scorecards were 79-72, 80-71 and 80-71 for Pacquiao. Last edited by Maynard; 12-07-2008 at 12:09 AM.

12-07-2008, 02:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
onethreefive Retired CIO Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ______ Posts: 1,366 Drives: _ Rep Power: 258	It was a great fight for manny, and a tough one for Oscar. The decision to stop was actually from Oscar's trainer and the ringside doctor. He was just taking a beating the last rounds so I think it was a good idea to stop the fight. For the people that missed the fight I'll see if I can get the clip of the last rounds. ------------------------------------ __________________ resident lurker extraordinaire Support Our Forum Become a Premium Member Click HERE Last edited by onethreefive; 12-07-2008 at 02:43 AM.

12-03-2008, 07:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Maynard Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 88 Drives: old faithful Rep Power: 300	I'm not going to see it, but I'm rooting for Pacquiao. Last time I saw a De La Hoya fight, he put me to sleep. Who's favored to win?

12-06-2008, 11:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Maynard Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 88 Drives: old faithful Rep Power: 300	I admit I'm not a rabid boxing fan, but I do like it and I watch a decent amount. I can't recall ever watching this happen at a fight, let alone a fight with a HUGE name like De La Hoya: "giving De La Hoya a beating and closing his left eye before De La Hoya declined to come out of his corner* after the eighth round."* Now I have to see a re-broadcast of that fight! Or I'll find it on the net

12-07-2008, 01:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Maynard Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 88 Drives: old faithful Rep Power: 300	Thanks for the movie link. Oscar was getting brutalized!