2012 NFL Thread

[b1adesofcha0s]

I mean just look at what he did in Denver last year. Not saying he's the best QB, but he is a great leader. When you can elevate the play of your team, you can get away with not being as good. Give him some real time with a good QB coach and I think he can become a decent QB. Don't forget, he has 1 more playoff win than Matt Ryan and that game was won with his passing skills.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I mean just look at what he did in Denver last year. Not saying he's the best QB, but he is a great leader. When you can elevate the play of your team, you can get away with not being as good. Give him some real time with a good QB coach and I think he can become a decent QB. Don't forget, he has 1 more playoff win than Matt Ryan and that game was won with his passing skills.

I know people say hes a great leader cus of what happened in denver. and as a steelers fan I admit.. HE beat us..

but if it werent for the team that denver was and is, he wouldnt have had success there.

To be decent in this league, he will need a team with a strong defense. a strong O line and a good run.. like denver was.

For all his charisma and leadership skills he would not have been able to save the Jets, the Chiefs, the Cardinals etc.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

I know people say hes a great leader cus of what happened in denver. and as a steelers fan I admit.. HE beat us..

but if it werent for the team that denver was and is, he wouldnt have had success there.

To be decent in this league, he will need a team with a strong defense. a strong O line and a good run.. like denver was.

For all his charisma and leadership skills he would not have been able to save the Jets, the Chiefs, the Cardinals etc.

He can be good, he just needs the right team. You could make the same argument with Alex Smith and the 49ers.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

He can be good, he just needs the right team. You could make the same argument with Alex Smith and the 49ers.

but see i believe Alex is a more traditional QB and would find more success in more places than Tebow would.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

I know people say hes a great leader cus of what happened in denver. and as a steelers fan I admit.. HE beat us..

but if it werent for the team that denver was and is, he wouldnt have had success there.

To be decent in this league, he will need a team with a strong defense. a strong O line and a good run.. like denver was.

For all his charisma and leadership skills he would not have been able to save the Jets, the Chiefs, the Cardinals etc.

As a lifetime denver fan, you are undervaluing what he added to the team.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

As a lifetime denver fan, you are undervaluing what he added to the team.

not at all. He made the team that had that better. And it was his throwing and QBing that beat us in the playoffs.

BUT. he wouldnt be able to translate that into one of the teams i mentioned above.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

not at all. He made the team that had that better. And it was his throwing and QBing that beat us in the playoffs.

BUT. he wouldnt be able to translate that into one of the teams i mentioned above.

Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.

Nah you forgot about the defenders getting lost in his eyes

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.

well thats a bad example for me.. because I believe that u put brady behind anything other than a perfect O-Line and hes a whiny lil cryin suck *** QB.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

well thats a bad example for me.. because I believe that u put brady behind anything other than a perfect O-Line and hes a whiny lil cryin suck *** QB.

Most good qb's are, because errybuddy sucks behind a crappy line.