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Originally Posted by Ventruck LeClerc lost sight of the long game there. Russell with another fortunate finish. Hamilton literally non-existent, getting lapped and all. Positive for me this weekend is

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Old 04-24-2022, 06:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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LeClerc lost sight of the long game there.

Russell with another fortunate finish.

Hamilton literally non-existent, getting lapped and all.

Positive for me this weekend is people's champ K-Mag.
Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

Mercedes will need a new floor to even get a grip on porpoise issue. Russell now is complaining of chest and back pain due to the porpoising of the chassis. Uh......thats not good and in some industries they would have to fix this issue immediately etc. As an employee he would have leverage legally. I was worried about that watching the amount they are suffering. You cant build and race a car that will destroy your drivers health just 'driving' it around. Nuts.

Russell battling back and chest pains thanks to porpoising
George Russell says he is starting to struggle with back and chest pains as a result of the extreme porpoising the current generation of Formula 1 cars are experiencing.

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The bouncing phenomenon has returned to F1 as a consequence of the new ground effect cars that have been designed to try to help improve the racing.

While some teams have managed to get a better handle on the matter, Mercedes is one of the teams that has suffered the most from it.

And beyond the competitive compromises that the porpoising has forced upon Mercedes, Russell has confessed to now having to battle the pain barrier.

Speaking about how his W13 feels from the cockpit, Russell said: "When the car is in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car - except for the bouncing - feels really good to drive.

"But the bouncing: it really takes your breath away. It's the most extreme I've ever felt it.

"I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team struggling with the bouncing finds a solution, because it's not sustainable for the drivers to continue.

"This is the first weekend I've truly been struggling with my back, and almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing. It's just what we have to do to go and do the fastest laps."
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Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

Mercedes will need a new floor to even get a grip on porpoise issue. Russell now is complaining of chest and back pain due to the porpoising of the chassis. Uh......thats not good and in some industries they would have to fix this issue immediately etc. As an employee he would have leverage legally. I was worried about that watching the amount they are suffering. You cant build and race a car that will destroy your drivers health just 'driving' it around. Nuts.

Russell battling back and chest pains thanks to porpoising
George Russell says he is starting to struggle with back and chest pains as a result of the extreme porpoising the current generation of Formula 1 cars are experiencing.

Jonathan Noble
By:
Jonathan Noble
Co-author:
Adam Cooper
Apr 24, 2022, 1:45 PM


The bouncing phenomenon has returned to F1 as a consequence of the new ground effect cars that have been designed to try to help improve the racing.

While some teams have managed to get a better handle on the matter, Mercedes is one of the teams that has suffered the most from it.

And beyond the competitive compromises that the porpoising has forced upon Mercedes, Russell has confessed to now having to battle the pain barrier.

Speaking about how his W13 feels from the cockpit, Russell said: "When the car is in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car - except for the bouncing - feels really good to drive.

"But the bouncing: it really takes your breath away. It's the most extreme I've ever felt it.

"I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team struggling with the bouncing finds a solution, because it's not sustainable for the drivers to continue.

"This is the first weekend I've truly been struggling with my back, and almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing. It's just what we have to do to go and do the fastest laps."
Haven't looked too hard into it but was watching clips on YT and someone mentioned that Russell's floor was legitimately damaged. That had me wondering how much an F1 driver's health was at risk, although I imagine it's in varying degrees if the front runners seem to be able to focus entirely the racing itself with no complaints.
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Was hoping to see a Bottas pass on Russell. The rest was a mess lol.

No DRS shows us how sad this current formulae is. Its not enough to be close and stay there. The engine parity reduces closure and you NEED DRS to pass. This was a big example of how ADDICTED F1 is to DRS.

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Some of that was specific to this track with only one fairly short DRS zone, and an easy defence to block a pass near the end of the zone. Although we'll see more just like it through the season. We may have "parity" in engines (not sure that we do, but be that as it may). I'd say that seeing Bottas trying and failing repeatedly to get by Russel even with the DRS and being all over the back of the Mercedes suggests that DRS isn't always sufficient. Russel didn't even have his front wing adjusted properly with the change to slicks!

When Gasly couldn't get by Albon (even WITH DRS), you know there remain some fundamental problems with many of the cars, and they're still coming to grips with setup.
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Some of that was specific to this track with only one fairly short DRS zone, and an easy defence to block a pass near the end of the zone. Although we'll see more just like it through the season. We may have "parity" in engines (not sure that we do, but be that as it may). I'd say that seeing Bottas trying and failing repeatedly to get by Russel even with the DRS and being all over the back of the Mercedes suggests that DRS isn't always sufficient. Russel didn't even have his front wing adjusted properly with the change to slicks!

When Gasly couldn't get by Albon (even WITH DRS), you know there remain some fundamental problems with many of the cars, and they're still coming to grips with setup.
Would it had been different if it was dry? Getting to the end of DRS zone, still a bit damp and no one really tried. Just made for a bit of a boring race... Red Bull got this one right
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Would it had been different if it was dry? Getting to the end of DRS zone, still a bit damp and no one really tried. Just made for a bit of a boring race... Red Bull got this one right
Good point on the wet.
Basically, I think the zone was too short for most cars to get the job done early enough, and by the time they got to the end of the straight there was an easy defence for the car in front - just hog the only dry line. Cars that tried to pass on the inside here were quickly re-taken because they couldn't carry speed through the following sequence of corners.
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Interesting look at complex turn sequence and track in Miami! Video link below.

https://motorsport.tv/embed/sQLQLhzq...orner-sequence


UK specialists Apex Circuit Design laid out the 5.41-kilometre anticlockwise circuit, which hosts its first Formula 1 Grand Prix next weekend, around the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens.

Its most sinuous section is through Turns 13-16, which wind around the entrance and exit ramps and beneath the flyover sections of the Florida Turnpike, the main toll road between Miami and Orlando, and NW 203rd Street.

The track is expected to produce an average lap speed of just under 135mph, and this slow-speed section precedes a 1.28km, 320kph straight that leads towards the hairpin at Turn 17.

The approach to Turn 17 should be the track’s key overtaking opportunity and the compression effect of the Turn 13-16 sequence should ensure close running onto the back straight.
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