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Rule tweaks for 2022, including clarification about un-lapping.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...-2022/9025157/
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The idiot Masi violated his own edict from Nurburgring 2020 - So what really changed LOL!????? This is exactly why he was removed. Inconsistency based on precedent. Had ZERO to do with Mercedes. His own rulings are and were the issue.

--Masi defended his actions at that point and, given the fact all lapped runners were able to pass the Safety Car and get away – but there was a particular ruling he went on to seemingly contradict at the weekend:

“There’s a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past,” Masi said at the time.-- The 2020 Eifel Grand Prix at the Nurburgring
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The idiot Masi violated his own edict from Nurburgring 2020 - So what really changed LOL!????? This is exactly why he was removed. Inconsistency based on precedent. Had ZERO to do with Mercedes. His own rulings are and were the issue.

--Masi defended his actions at that point and, given the fact all lapped runners were able to pass the Safety Car and get away – but there was a particular ruling he went on to seemingly contradict at the weekend:

“There’s a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past,” Masi said at the time.-- The 2020 Eifel Grand Prix at the Nurburgring
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Finished up the newest Drive to Survive on Netflix and the lady and I are juiced for this race season. The Netflix show is all for entertainment purposes, though with them filming at all times, I really wish they had an episode per race.

This F1 season should be another one filled with drama and I am all in.
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Nico Hulkenberg to start for Aston Marin in Bahrain, after Seb tests positive for Covid 19.
Both sad, and happy about this.
Never a dull moment in Formula 1.
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Nico Hulkenberg to start for Aston Marin in Bahrain, after Seb tests positive for Covid 19.
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Never a dull moment in Formula 1.
Oh the virus will just disappear lol??? Buffonery..........relaxed protocols with variants more easily spread!! Wait till mechanics are taken out. Drivers dont wrench!!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/hu...-test/9070571/

Just 24 hours before practice begins for the F1 season opener, Aston Martin announced that Vettel would not be able to take part.

It means that Hulkenberg will be making his fourth appearance for the Aston Martin team having been drafted in previously when its drivers were taken ill.

Sergio Perez had to miss both Silverstone races in 2020, while Lance Stroll was forced out of that year’s Eifel Grand Prix at the Nurbugring.

Vettel is the ninth F1 driver to test positive and his absence comes just one week after McLaren’s Daniel Ricciardo had to miss last week’s pre-season test with COVID.

Prior to being taken unwell, the Australian had mixed with drivers ahead of the event for a Grand Prix Drivers’ Association (GPDA) photoshoot on the Bahrain grid to show their solidarity with Ukraine following the Russian invasion.

F1 has relaxed its COVID protocols for this year, with its previously strict regime of regular mandatory PCR testing having been wound back.

Now, PCR tests are only recommended, and F1 has moved away from the strict bubble system that was in place throughout much of the 2020 and 2021 campaigns.
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Oh the virus will just disappear lol??? Buffonery..........relaxed protocols with variants more easily spread!! Wait till mechanics are taken out. Drivers dont wrench!!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/hu...-test/9070571/

Just 24 hours before practice begins for the F1 season opener, Aston Martin announced that Vettel would not be able to take part.

It means that Hulkenberg will be making his fourth appearance for the Aston Martin team having been drafted in previously when its drivers were taken ill.

Sergio Perez had to miss both Silverstone races in 2020, while Lance Stroll was forced out of that year’s Eifel Grand Prix at the Nurbugring.

Vettel is the ninth F1 driver to test positive and his absence comes just one week after McLaren’s Daniel Ricciardo had to miss last week’s pre-season test with COVID.

Prior to being taken unwell, the Australian had mixed with drivers ahead of the event for a Grand Prix Drivers’ Association (GPDA) photoshoot on the Bahrain grid to show their solidarity with Ukraine following the Russian invasion.

F1 has relaxed its COVID protocols for this year, with its previously strict regime of regular mandatory PCR testing having been wound back.

Now, PCR tests are only recommended, and F1 has moved away from the strict bubble system that was in place throughout much of the 2020 and 2021 campaigns.
Well, Lando might wrench.
And if Danny Ric can fix a tractor, then that's McLaren sorted.
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Yeah, globe-trotting around the world without isolation/bubbles is still asking for trouble in today's reality. As you say, it only takes one or two key members of a team to cause tremendous headaches.

Wonder what happens when both drivers test positive on the same weekend? Call in Amy from the typing pool to fill the other seat?
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Yeah, globe-trotting around the world without isolation/bubbles is still asking for trouble in today's reality. As you say, it only takes one or two key members of a team to cause tremendous headaches.

Wonder what happens when both drivers test positive on the same weekend? Call in Amy from the typing pool to fill the other seat?
Oh Amy suit up please .........no not the bikini lol
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Why F1's porpoising headaches won't end just yet
The fight for glory in Formula 1’s season opener this weekend looks almost certain to be influenced by the ongoing issue of porpoising.


By: Jonathan Noble
Mar 18, 2022, 4:52 AM
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What at first seemed to be just an uncomfortable consequence of F1’s switch to ground effect cars when it materialised in testing has turned into a critical area of performance.

Teams have quickly come to realise that the lower they can run their cars without being affected by porpoising, the more downforce they can gain.

And it is finding that sweet spot, between going for performance by running low but not suffering from too bad porpoising, that will be especially critical for teams in their set-up choices for this weekend.

Some outfits have found that right balance and have understood what needs to be done, whereas others like Mercedes are struggling a bit more to get on top of it.

Alpine, for example, was pretty chuffed at the end of last week’s test about how it had explored the set-up boundaries of its car to know what does and doesn’t work.

Sporting director Alan Permane said: “We can switch that on and off now. We know what makes that happen, what stops it.

“But I'm not sure we fully know whether we want it: whether it's quicker in some settings or not quicker and we should live with it. But we did get some settings where Fernando [Alonso] said: 'I wouldn't be able to race like this.'

“I think if you look at other cars, you can see certainly the Ferrari was at some points really bouncing. So we've got a much better handle on that now.”

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While Ferrari has endured its fair share of bouncing over the two pre-season tests, some of that was induced as an experiment to find out what doesn’t work.

Team principal Mattia Binotto said that even before the first Barcelona test, his team was mindful about the potential for trouble – even though it had not cropped up over the winter.

But part of that reason, as he explained, was that teams’ windtunnels are limited in speed.

“No-one had foreseen it or given it the right importance, so why didn't it show up in the simulations?” explained Binotto.

“In our case the phenomenon occurred when exceeding 250 km/h, and in the windtunnel we are limited by regulation to 180 km/h.

“We had hypothesised something about this phenomenon, and we thought of possible solutions to try something if the problem manifested itself. That is why already on the second day in Barcelona we went for an answer.

“The team was very reactive, in one day they designed, produced and brought to the track a new component. It was possible because basically we had already started to think about what to do in case this problem arose.

“It is not yet a completely solved problem, but for the most part, the solutions brought to Bahrain worked.”

The focus for everyone this weekend will be where the compromise is made: easing the porpoising and reducing the performance, or gunning for performance and leaving the drivers in an uncomfortable spot.

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Ferrari’s Carlos Sainz Jr admitted it was hard to know which route was best.

“As a driver you suffer the bouncing, but at the same time you know that the lower you go with these cars, the faster you are in the corners, but then the more you suffer on the straights because of the bouncing,” he said.

“So it's a compromise to be found. I'm a strong believer that the bouncing will disappear and shouldn't be there, as it's not normal to see an F1 car jump like that, and we're working on trying to address it.

“Already in Bahrain, testing was a lot better than in Barcelona and we could run the car in a more optimal window. But I think we need to keep working on it, if we need to get rid of it fully.”


But even if teams make good progress in addressing the problem this weekend, it will not mean porpoising is gone for the long term.

Let’s not forget that teams have had three full days of testing in Bahrain to find the right balance between performance and porpoising ahead of this weekend’s race.

Next weekend’s race in Saudi Arabia, where the higher straightline speeds will likely exacerbate the problem, will be a tougher challenge because there is no pre-event testing.

As Sainz said: “I think the tricky bit will be when we go to circuits that we haven't been testing, because I still believe that tarmac and the conditions, the heat, the air pressure, everything affects the aerodynamics, so it affects the bouncing.

“I think the biggest challenge will be Saudi because it's a really high-speed circuit and a new track for all of us with these cars. I think this will be tricky to set up. It will be a bit like everything: you will start little by little, but it will be a challenge for sure.”

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F1 Practice Day Bahrain GP weekend!

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interesting first session, I have no idea what is going to happen

Final top 10 times FP1

1. Gasly (AlphaTauri) 1m34.193s, soft
2. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m34.557s, medium
3. Sainz (Ferrari) 1m34.611s, medium
4. Russell (Mercedes) 1m34.629s, soft
5. Verstappen (Red Bull) 1m34.742s, medium
6. Stroll (Aston Martin) 1m34.814s, soft
7. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m34.943s, soft
8. Alonso (Alpine) 1m35.000s, soft
9. Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) 1m35.028s, soft
10. Perez (Red Bull) 1m35.050s, medium

FP1 summary
So that's the first 2022 Formula 1 practice session done.

Here's what happened in Bahrain FP1:

Gasly fastest on the soft tyres
Ferrari second and third on the mediums
Verstappen fifth with early best effort
Bodywork fires off Ocon's Alpine
Bottas completes just two laps
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Cars look great in motion. Heavy bias from me has the Ferraris looking the coolest of all 2022 cars.

Glad to see the Boys in Red both carry speed and consistency throughout P1 and P2. Nice to see Gasly showing out and continue to let everyone know he’s not out there to play, but to win.

Hamilton has to be pulling his usual public radio complaints and sandbagging, right?

Excited to see how this all transitions to the real deal come qualifying and race day.
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Yeah some games being played until tomorrow. Excited for the season to start, I hope Ferrari is competitive would love to see 3 teams battling it out this year.


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