Happy for McLaren and a long overdue win for Riccardo, but Bottas was something else. Last to 3rd.

I just had to laugh at Max forcing the issue and Hamilton not backing down. Not terribly different from their last incident when Max had to retire. I think it would be interesting to see them be able to race side by side without incident but it'll never happen.

After that horrendous pitstop Max was pissed, sorta like: I'm taking my ball and going home and I'm going to stab your ball, too, Lewis :icon17:

:iagree:

The guys on ESPN were giving Bottas soooo much shìt at the end for not being able to pass Perez, too. Didn't say anything about his race to that point. Fuckin tools :shakes head:

I'll take a McLaren 1-2! They said "We're back!" and kicked the f-ing door down! Zak lookin' like the proudest dad is wholesome AF. I'm 100% for it!

I can see why Max got the penalty. As explained in the stewards report, he was never fully alongside Lewis at any point into the corner. The grid penalty is simply because of the DNF, otherwise I bet the stewards would issue the 10s penalty.

I think the move itself wasn't egregious, but ill-advised. Lewis was already on a defensive line coming out of the pits, so lining him up for the next chicane would have been an easier attempt IMO. Even cutting straight across (like Perez) would have netted him a chance to finish the race. I'm sure some of you will reference "hindsight" but I felt this was a crash just by the positioning of both their cars around pit exit. As far as Lewis's part in this, I'm not surprised he shut the door. Max has done this same thing to him in Imola, Spain, and even Lap 1 at Monza. I'm sure Lewis has decided enough is enough, so expect more incidents like this. He may get more penalties because of this, but I'm sure he's done caring. As long as neither of them try some Senna or Schumacher tactics, I'm for the shenanigans.

The accident itself was made worse by the orange kerb. They need to get rid of those. A launched car not good for anyone.

LOL ESPN

They suck.

Bottas had the skill but tires were going away! Got 3rd nicely as Perez cant understand cutting corners and keeping places is foul. Bottas may not always be LH-fast, but Perez is clearly not as fast or savvy as Bottas!!!!!!!!!!!

FIA sees no need to change Monza kerbs after Verstappen/Hamilton clash
By:
Filip Cleeren
Co-author:
Adam Cooper
Sep 14, 2021, 4:21 AM
FIA race director Michael Masi doesn't believe the sausage kerbs at Monza's first chicane require any changes in the wake of the clash between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen at the Italian Grand Prix.

Lewis should have shut the door on Turn 1 and forced Max to take the escape road, not waited until turn-in for Turn 2. Easy to say in hind sight, but showing Max a gap and then making it disappear when he started to see Max's wing behind his left wheel, when the Red Bull had no where to go, was pretty dirty. I don't think it was calculated, but it made the collision inevitable.

Max could not have hoped to make Turn 2 on the line he was taking, without collecting Lewis or pushing him off the track.

But Lewis could have put his elbows out earlier and owned the chicane, or avoided the accident by opening up at Turn 2, and Toto would have argued with the stewards to give the place back later in the race. He is not at fault, but he wore his bad decisions.

Thankfully, Max had the diff set to open for the chicane, so the right rear wheel didn't rotate. I'm thinking they would have been otherwise collecting Lewis' helmet, and its contents, off the track! Shudder to think of what that accident would have looked like pre-halo!

WTF1???
https://www.planetf1.com/news/saudi-...la-1-takeover/

Planet F1 reporting rumours of Saudi interests considering the purchase of F1 from Liberty Media.

Liberty are looking to get out? Sure why not. Viewership is up and they have F1 TV and Social Media set up. New races etc. Sell it.

F1 is dying. What is next after the new PU in 26?? No one knows..............

They E motive world is here. E is taking over the design of the next PU. More E and then add bio-fuel with less energy than pump fuel they use now. It will burn cleaner but have less energy density. Then what? E - Electric. By 2030 the infrastructure will be developed more fully to support E vs ICE.

Makers including Mercedes are going full E. The public will be E indoctrinated.

F1 will be what?????????

I have to agree after watching Jolyon’s analysis yesterday, there was enough space for Lewis to safely cut him off before getting to turn 1. He should have telegraphed it as “there’s no Fing way you’re getting through here Max”

However, it was hilarious to see Max attempt that on Felipe in 2017 and still crash out. Massa was even more demonstrative with his shutting of the door.

I disagree with the statement that the tactic was “dirty”. It’s just hard racing.

I feel like I’m watching DTS when reading your comments.

dts??

Max has been racing a long time overall. He has habits and is slow to change them it appears. His loss if he doesnt race a touch smarter than harder.

So much like his hot headed Papa

Drive To Survive (Netflix)

All of your comments sound sensationalized when I read them, haha.

Interesting as I have never seen of this show.

Total hype, but good entertainment!

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It is very obvious Max is the darling child and Lewis is the champion many are tiered of. It does not matter where he places his car the critics will say it's his fault. Max constantly forces his rivals wide as he did Lewis again in this race. Lewis bailed because he had no place to go. So he doesn't drive aggressively enough in this circumstance according to others and he criticized for leaving Max a sucker hole. I am amazed again that Max supporters are like, what did you expect Max to do but go for it. LMAO, what happened to no wrecking your multimillion dollar car and winning the championships? At his skill level, you are telling me he can't judge time and distance? In the Silverstone incident people made the observation that Lewis had no chance of making the apex and therefore it was his fault. Well, he was spot on the apex in this situation and when Max forced him wide he missed the apex totally. I guess all things are not equal!

The bottom line, RB should be so far in front of MB to claim the championships already. MB all but conceded the championships to them this year knowing RB had superior car. What happened to the cries that MB could not stand up to RB in equal cars. MB may not win the championship but RB has been out classed by better drive and manufacturer.

Oh and let's make another great decision to build their own engine before the next season with all the new regulation changes. Come on McClaren!!!

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CTxishBB...dium=copy_link

Pobst is a smart racer!

Vortex of danger!

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Must use that as well lol :)

Lewis was never going to make the apex of T2 on his line, but instead apex early. He had to, as otherwise, he would have left max enough room to get by between the two corners.

If you go by Probst in his analysis of Silverstone (and I’m not sure how relevant that analysis was, especially as he used simulation video), but this thesis was that that one was Max’s fault because “you don’t hit what you can see”, and he could “see Hamilton’s wing behind his right front wheel”. In this one, Lewis could clearly see the end plate of Verstappen’s front wing directly behind his left front wheel. Not steering away at that point ensured that both cars would be damaged or wrecked.

Max, in order to pass Lewis on the left somewhere in there, would have had to do a 3-point turn in order to leave the Mercedes enough room on the right at the exit of T2. That’s why it was never going to work. But he’s a Dutchman - wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn’t listen. :-)

Woulda - coulda - shoulda lol :)

So, halfway through the season, and Mazepin is 21st in the 20-driver standings!

His papa must be so proud.

He needed to find his precious child some type of employment lol :)

One does not think Mazee-spin has any ambition at all outside of racing.

To be fair, he's 21/21

We have much more wars of words than racing this season... bwah...

Interesting but RedBull could not pass at all a fully loaded Mclaren. Max could not close Ricci at all when Ricci blew past on the start. So how good is it???????? A clash did not matter. Max was not at all going to win that race by passing either Mclaren. RedBull were
S L O W E R!

Honda reveals fast-tracked F1 power unit upgrade introduced at Spa

- https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ho...t-spa/6672387/
By:
Luke Smith
Sep 22, 2021, 4:57 AM
Honda has revealed it introduced a fast-tracked upgrade for its Formula 1 power unit energy store to Max Verstappen’s car at Spa last month, boosting his championship challenge.

Honda will quit F1 at the end of the season following a seven-season stint back in the series, during which it has worked with McLaren, Red Bull and AlphaTauri.

Red Bull has a chance to give Honda a farewell championship as it goes head-to-head with Mercedes for the constructors’ title, as well as seeing Verstappen in the thick of the fight for the drivers’ crown.

Honda worked to fast-track a number of its power unit developments initially planned for the 2022 season onto its 2021 design, bringing forward upgrades to assist its customer teams.

The latest step forward arrived last month at the Belgian Grand Prix when years of development led to the introduction of a new energy store that debuted on Verstappen’s car. Under the current regulations, each power unit component can be upgraded once per season.

Honda revealed on Wednesday ahead of the Russian Grand Prix that the new energy store had been introduced two races ago at Spa.

“This new energy store has been developed in a project that has taken several years, with an aim to combine improvements in energy efficiency with significant reductions in weight,” said Honda’s head of power unit development, Yasuaki Asaki.

“In what will be the company’s final season in the sport, Honda F1 has managed to introduce the new ES - fitted with a lighter, low-resistance, highly efficient and ultra-high power battery cell - just in time for the start of the second half of the season.
Sergio Perez, Red Bull Racing RB16B

Sergio Perez, Red Bull Racing RB16B

Photo by: Andy Hone / Motorsport Images

“In order to achieve the ultimate goal of defeating Mercedes and winning the championship before leaving F1 at the end of the 2021 season, we recognised the need to enhance performance.

“As such, the development plan for the new energy store was brought forward substantially from the original goal of 2022 to introduction during the 2021 season.”

Verstappen used the updated energy store to take pole position in the wet at Spa, before being declared the winner of the two-lap race following heavy rain. Verstappen also started on pole at Monza before a clash with Hamilton forced him to retire from the race.

Part of me likes the competition, but another part of me wants Mercedes to introduce a PU upgrade that will send RB back to the shadow realm.

I'd get a real chuckle out of that, lmao. I'm more interested in Ferrari's PU upgrade that is confirmed as coming soon.

Mercedes -https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...ngine-extreme/


Ferrari - In the team’s preview of the Russian Grand Prix this weekend, Ferrari revealed that Leclerc would be taking the updated power unit at the Sochi Autodrom to mark its on-track debut. It is understood that the power gain offered by the updated hybrid system will be less than 10bhp, but will nevertheless offer a small boost in the fight with McLaren for third in the constructors’ championship.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fe...an-gp/6672699/

I wonder if that's what they tested with Bottas. He came the through the field like a freight train.

Bottas was the fastest for the most part the whole weekend I think. He probably would have won from Pole assuming good start. One cannot discount Mclaren in all this. RedBull had no answer for them. Maybe even Mercedes as well lol!

I think it was incredibly difficult to pass at the front of the pack. My perception is that Max know if he didn't get past Lewis on his out lap it was game over, so it was an all or nothing move. Well it worked, he is still leading the championship!

I will be interesting to see if RB swaps the motor since they already have a three grid place penalty.

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Max had no answer to the Mercedes- Mclaren. None. That was interesting.

Yes, but unfortunately for McLaren, Monza is kind of a one-off.
Between a track suited for their car, the pole sitter stuck with an engine penalty, and the loss of the two top contenders, it was a perfect storm for a papaya 1-2 finish. I doubt that the gods will favour them so well again in the remaining races.

As for Bottas, if he couldn't pass the 12 slowest cars on the grid in a Mercedes at Monza, well, he doesn't deserve to be driving F1. I'm a fan, and he did well, but even I have to admit that charging through the slow traffic is not really an achievement. Especially when it cost him a set of tires to get there.

Haas announced they will stick with the same driver lineup next year.
In other news, Haas finishes the 2022 season without a single point - once again.

^^^^LMAO!

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Bottas was expected to do exactly what he did. The track yielded the overtake velocity required. Certainly not at Zandvoort lol :)

LOL that's a hot take. Where was that synopsis last year at Monza?!

Thinking that Max will have a harder time of getting through the pack this weekend than Bottas did last race. But we'll see.

High of 18 and chance of rain all weekend. Heavier on Sunday, but he doesn't have to push quali if he's starting from the back anyway.