Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Who do YOU got?

lt_370z · 04-30-2015, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

I still like my scenario better. Pac wins both! But I do see what you are saying if Mayweather is wanting to try to get paid for his last fight. But I do not see him wanting to drop the first "L" on his record so I see him trying to do whatever he can to win by decision.

It's not Mayweather that cares about the money at this point it's Vegas. Mayweather would rather have the 0 losses on his record than a rematch to make more money. He can get another fight with somebody else and still make 80-100 mill.

eastwest2300 · 04-30-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lt_370z

This fight will go to a decision and at that point you can only pray. Pacquiao got screwed by the judges in the Bradley fight. Mayweather won a "Split" decision against Canelo when he clearly dominated him. Anything can happen unless you knock the guy out which we all know Mayweather will not do. He will earn points by counterpunching and jabs.

Oh my gosh talk about highway robbery, yes, the pacquiao v. bradley was complete bullsh1t.. but you're right, we all want a clear winner, no bullsh1t attached. Thats what Im hoping for.

And I dont think mayweather would sacrifice a loss for NO amount of money.. even if its in Vegas.

eastwest2300 · 04-30-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lt_370z

It's not Mayweather that cares about the money at this point it's Vegas. Mayweather would rather have the 0 losses on his record than a rematch to make more money. He can get another fight with somebody else and still make 80-100 mill.

You and I sir, are on the same page.

ANMVQ · 04-30-2015, 02:18 PM

mayweather will back out watch, Missing training days last week, He afraid, First fight he didn't hand pick. He didnt want any part of Manny 6 years ago and nothing is changed. mayweather is a BIG mouth and Mannys going to shut it ! IF mayweather shows up.

eastwest2300 · 04-30-2015, 02:20 PM

I hope to the good lord above this doesnt happen... I'd have a heart attack...

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-30-2015, 02:23 PM

Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!! Pacquiao!!!!

MightyMouse13 · 04-30-2015, 03:23 PM

I think Mayweather's the better boxer, by a fairly wide margin, and could win if he wanted to, but something's smelled fishy about Bob Aram and this whole matchup since way back when, so I'm gonna say Mayweather loses the fight to set up an even bigger paying rematch.

Now if that's not the case, no way Pac wins. Mayweather is such a great fighter because nobody can outbox/ outscore him, but he's also not going to let you get close enough to knock him out. The only way to a win against him is by knockout. So you have to make the risky choice to chase a knockout, or go with the almost surefire failing plan to try to beat him at his own game, which I'm highly doubtful happens.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-30-2015, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouse13

I think Mayweather's the better fighter, by a fairly wide margin, and could win if he wanted to, but something's smelled fishy about Bob Aram and this whole matchup since way back when, so I'm gonna say Mayweather loses the fight to set up an even bigger paying rematch.

Now if that's not the case, no way Pac wins. Mayweather is such a great fighter because nobody can outbox/ outscore him, but he's also not going to let you get close enough to knock him out. The only way to a win against him is by knockout. So you have to make the risky choice to chase a knockout, or go with the almost surefire failing plan to try to beat him at his own game, which I'm highly doubtful happens.

Lol... When you said wide margin? You werejoking right?

Chuck33079 · 04-30-2015, 04:16 PM

It's such a shame this fight didn't happen years ago when Mayweather first started ducking Manny. THAT would have been an epic fight. This is one last cash-in before Mayweather quits.

MightyMouse13 · 04-30-2015, 04:17 PM

Ok to clarify- boxer, not fighter. Misspoke. The better fighter would be pac.

Mayweather's strategy has been the same for years, and, as is obvious by his record, has worked to perfection. Win by all objective measurements (punch stats), and dare the judges to give you the loss based on the subjective data (even if the subjective stuff, like who's actually winning the fight) is right. If you're sitting in the judges' chair, and the compubox numbers are coming back that Floyd's landed punch to getting hit ratio is over 3:1 (Floyd's career stats) while Pac's is only a little over 1:1 (Pac's current career stats), you've got to feel like you're in a pretty tight spot even if your eyes are telling you otherwise. It's not pretty, it doesn't always yield the correct decision, but it's pretty hard to question who's the better "boxer".

axmea? · 04-30-2015, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Lol... When you said wide margin? You werejoking right?

I cracked up when I read his post.

When you say wide margin I was thinking Floyd's mouth.

adidascanada · 04-30-2015, 04:45 PM

I want Pacquiao to win but I think Mayweather will prevail...

Chuck33079 · 04-30-2015, 04:56 PM

I think people have confused the poll for who they want to win, not who will actually win. The last time we saw Manny, wasn't he face down on the mat taking a nap?

sylenze · 04-30-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouse13

Ok to clarify- boxer, not fighter. Misspoke. The better fighter would be pac.

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Umm still incorrect statement... Just because mayweather is a better counter puncher and has a defensive style of boxing doesn't mean he is the better boxer... feints, movements, punch combination, ring generalship, chin, aggression and such are also other attributes of being a boxer... mayweather is not necessarily better "by a wide margin" than pac at those regards... they just box differently...

On the flip side, Pac is one of the best offensive boxers... that's why you think he is a better "fighter" (which also an incorrect statement)... in offensive boxing attributes I think Pac has mayweather edged out...

The correct statement is that Mayweather's style of boxing is way less riskier than Pac's style is... more importantly, it is easier to score points being a defensive boxer than being offensive especially at Mayweather's skill level... SO, to generalize that one is a better boxer than the other is just wrong...

sylenze · 04-30-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I think people have confused the poll for who they want to win, not who will actually win. The last time we saw Manny, wasn't he face down on the mat taking a nap?

Yup, for more ppl to think Pac has better odds or simply thinks he will win is suspect... there should be more option on the poll... LOL

But it's disappointing that you referred back to the marquez fight the last time you saw manny fight... at least do yourself a favor and watch the Bradley/Pac 2...it's free on youtube on HBO's channel... that was one hell of a fight, and will make you think about Pac's chin again since you are referring back at pac taking a nap...

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Mayweather	19	31.67%
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04-30-2015, 02:18 PM	#34 (permalink)
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04-30-2015, 03:23 PM	#37 (permalink)
MightyMouse13 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 77 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Mag B Rep Power: 11	I think Mayweather's the better boxer, by a fairly wide margin, and could win if he wanted to, but something's smelled fishy about Bob Aram and this whole matchup since way back when, so I'm gonna say Mayweather loses the fight to set up an even bigger paying rematch. Now if that's not the case, no way Pac wins. Mayweather is such a great fighter because nobody can outbox/ outscore him, but he's also not going to let you get close enough to knock him out. The only way to a win against him is by knockout. So you have to make the risky choice to chase a knockout, or go with the almost surefire failing plan to try to beat him at his own game, which I'm highly doubtful happens. Last edited by MightyMouse13; 04-30-2015 at 04:52 PM.

04-30-2015, 04:16 PM	#39 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	It's such a shame this fight didn't happen years ago when Mayweather first started ducking Manny. THAT would have been an epic fight. This is one last cash-in before Mayweather quits. sylenze, UNKNOWN_370, eastwest2300 and 3 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

04-30-2015, 04:17 PM	#40 (permalink)
MightyMouse13 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 77 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Mag B Rep Power: 11	Ok to clarify- boxer, not fighter. Misspoke. The better fighter would be pac. Mayweather's strategy has been the same for years, and, as is obvious by his record, has worked to perfection. Win by all objective measurements (punch stats), and dare the judges to give you the loss based on the subjective data (even if the subjective stuff, like who's actually winning the fight) is right. If you're sitting in the judges' chair, and the compubox numbers are coming back that Floyd's landed punch to getting hit ratio is over 3:1 (Floyd's career stats) while Pac's is only a little over 1:1 (Pac's current career stats), you've got to feel like you're in a pretty tight spot even if your eyes are telling you otherwise. It's not pretty, it doesn't always yield the correct decision, but it's pretty hard to question who's the better "boxer". Last edited by MightyMouse13; 04-30-2015 at 05:00 PM.

04-30-2015, 04:45 PM	#42 (permalink)
adidascanada Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: GTA Posts: 226 Drives: 370z Roadster Rep Power: 3367	I want Pacquiao to win but I think Mayweather will prevail...

04-30-2015, 04:56 PM	#43 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I think people have confused the poll for who they want to win, not who will actually win. The last time we saw Manny, wasn't he face down on the mat taking a nap? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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