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Originally Posted by XwChriswX I don't see any reason why we couldn't this far out... Unless Patrick has a shoot to go do in NC. But he'll know his schedule

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Old 01-30-2012, 01:57 PM   #1681 (permalink)
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I don't see any reason why we couldn't this far out... Unless Patrick has a shoot to go do in NC. But he'll know his schedule for those better than I...

Those have closed ends right?

The thing with spacers is when you get the extended studs, those are for 15mm or less... 20mm or more, which is what the stockers deserve, you should get the type II spacers with the studs built into the spacer. Those will be the same length as a stock hub so there's no problem there.

If you do however decide to go with just extended studs, the spacer will take up the excess length of the studs. Example:

Standard Stud Length: 35mm (just for demonstration purposes, not sure the actual length of our studs)

Extended Stud Length: 50mm

Spacer Width: 15mm

50mm - 15mm = 35mm

So you'll be at the same starting point you were without the spacers. If your lugs fit then, they'll still fit with spacers.

Yeah, the Rays lugs are closed ended. I was under the impression the DRM would not fit a 15/20 setup for the stock Rays. Either the front or back would not sit flush. Am I wrong?

I really like the idea of keeping everything clean with the DRS setup. I might just buy them and see. Worst case scenario I have to buy an open ended set of lugs which I have thought about switching anyways.

Chris, Did you end up ordering those special edition black Volk center caps for your GT-S?
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Old 01-30-2012, 01:58 PM   #1682 (permalink)
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spacers FTW richie!

as for feb 18-19th. i'm not sure yet. most likely i will be in NC every weekend of feb other than this coming weekend for the superbowl. we've got a shitton of cars to shoot by the end of the month, looks like that will be all the time we have to do so we were hoping to spread the contract out over the course of the year but circumstances have changed (which is a good thing for the owner) and our timetable has become quite truncated.
Oh well, I will have to catch you for the meet in April.
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Yeah, the Rays lugs are closed ended. I was under the impression the DRM would not fit a 15/20 setup for the stock Rays. Either the front or back would not sit flush. Am I wrong?

I really like the idea of keeping everything clean with the DRS setup. I might just buy them and see. Worst case scenario I have to buy an open ended set of lugs which I have thought about switching anyways.

Chris, Did you end up ordering those special edition black Volk center caps for your GT-S?
No, Vivid never got back to me with pricing/timeline so I said screw it on those.

It's not because of the stud length they won't fit, its because of the way they fasten to the wheel. Based on the 'base' of the lug. Like this:



The lugs for the OEM Rays wheels won't look the same as the Rays Aftermarket Lugs/Wheels. This is why if you retain the stock wheels, you'll need the stock lugs. It's kinda a pain, but it's how they do it...
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I'm probably going to be in Clemson Feb 18-19th if any of you guys want to meet up for dinner. I won't have the Z though.

I should be open for that weekend. Just let me know
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Hey fellows looking at my schedule I will have my son for three out of the four weekends in April so the only thing I have available is the weekend of the 28th. Since everyone's schedule is all over the board lets just wait and get through the month of February and we'll see if anything opens up for anyone. Im sure between the months of March, April, and early May we should be able to lock something in. Or if April the 28th is good chime in on that...
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I'm probably going to be in Clemson Feb 18-19th if any of you guys want to meet up for dinner. I won't have the Z though.

I'm thinking about buying a set of spacers for my stock 19s. But I want the extended stud H&Rs. Anyone know if the extended studs will still fit with my extended Rays duralumin legs nuts when I put the TE37s back on? Basically I spend half the year on TEs and half the year on my Rays so I want the car to look good both ways.
You buying?..... I think I'm off that weekend so we will have to meet up if I'm in town. We talked about going snowboarding that weekend.
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No, Vivid never got back to me with pricing/timeline so I said screw it on those.

It's not because of the stud length they won't fit, its because of the way they fasten to the wheel. Based on the 'base' of the lug. Like this:



The lugs for the OEM Rays wheels won't look the same as the Rays Aftermarket Lugs/Wheels. This is why if you retain the stock wheels, you'll need the stock lugs. It's kinda a pain, but it's how they do it...
No, you are misunderstanding what I'm asking. I'm not trying to use the Rays lugs with my stock wheels. I just want to be able to switch between my Te37s with Rays lugs and my stock Rays with stock lugs and spacers. But I don't want to have to switch out the extended studs each time I switch wheels.

So basically I want to know if my Volk TE37s with the Rays extended Duralumin lug nuts will fit with the extended H&R studs without spacers?
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Hey fellows looking at my schedule I will have my son for three out of the four weekends in April so the only thing I have available is the weekend of the 28th. Since everyone's schedule is all over the board lets just wait and get through the month of February and we'll see if anything opens up for anyone. Im sure between the months of March, April, and early May we should be able to lock something in. Or if April the 28th is good chime in on that...
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You buying?..... I think I'm off that weekend so we will have to meet up if I'm in town. We talked about going snowboarding that weekend.
Only if we get a discount of "free" from Copper River.

I might be down for snowboarding. Let me ask Liz if she's interested and I will let you know. If we do it will just be a day trip.
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No, you are misunderstanding what I'm asking. I'm not trying to use the Rays lugs with my stock wheels. I just want to be able to switch between my Te37s with Rays lugs and my stock Rays with stock lugs and spacers. But I don't want to have to switch out the extended studs each time I switch wheels.

So basically I want to know if my Volk TE37s with the Rays extended Duralumin lug nuts will fit with the extended H&R studs without spacers?
OH withOUT the spacers on... Hmmm... That might be a bit tricky... I doubt they'll fit since they're closed ended...


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Any of you local guys want to get together next week for dinner and a beer or 2?
I'm always down for meeting the br0s.
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I'm always down for meeting the br0s.

Lol....... Are you saying Patrick is very familiar with your nuts? ok I will stop now.

It would be after work one day. You want to drive down?
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