Nissan 370Z Forum - Sound Deadener Give Away

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Originally Posted by Second Skin (Post 461682)

It is really not that difficult.
The tiles will go mostly on the floor, in the hatch, and on the wheel wells and quarter panels, spread out evenly.
The Luxury Liner Pro will go on top of the tiles (glued down with contact adhesive) on the quarter panels and wheel wells, with some on the floor.

To do an entire Z you would need closer to 5 sheets of Luxury Liner Pro, but the 2 we gave you is a good start, especially when you are strategic about the placement of the products.

ANT

Yeah, I'm not too worried about it being difficult. I'm only planning on doing partial trunk with SPL tiles and using the rest on the doors. I'm going to use the luxury liner only in the trunk.

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Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 462277)

I just posted my thread here. I'll toss a slightly modified one up on my350z soon. :) http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/1...ll-review.html

tl;dr: The result was great, but I suck at working on car interiors.

Thanks for the great review!

ANT

I started doing my hatch yesterday, and I'm about halfway done. I probably won't have a writeup until Wednesday because I'm going to be without my car Mon/Tues and I won't be putting all the panels back in until I get it back, so I want to drive it a bit first. Also, I won't be doing the doors this go-around since I won't have the time. I decided to do the entire hatch area, so I think I'm going to run short on materials to do the doors anyway, so I'll have to order some more.

Everything is going good so far, and I'm going to have an *** ton of pictures to share. Oh, and I'm sore as hell from sitting in my hatch for like 5 hours.

Come on winners, I'm looking forward to more reviews! :tup:

I am trying to decide whether to do this myself or have a professional do the install for me. Having it done will be expensive and won't give me the satisfaction of a well done DIY. But I am worried about messing up/damaging the interior panels and ending up with more squeaks and rattles and other problems then I started with. Looking forward to your feedback!

Well my hatch is done, and I'm going to put up the review/writeup on the weekend, since it is going to take a good bit of time to write everything.

My first drive in to work, and it definitely decreased the amount of road noise I was getting by a pretty big amount. Haven't listened to any music yet.

Finally got around to writing up a post, turned into a sort of DIY:
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...tml#post482584

Also threw up a post in the A/V section as well:
http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/1...-complete.html

Thanks again Ant, great product! I'll be sure to recommend it to anyone that is looking to install sound deadening material in their car.

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 482596)

Looks good, but from the pics, I think you installed the Luxury Liner Pro upside down.
The foam is supposed to attach to the foil and the vynyl is supposed be visable.
Flip it around and you will get much better results.
ANT

Son of a bitch, you are right. :( That really sucks. Not sure I feel like tearing apart my car and redoing it. Your pictures of the product is kind of misleading, because it makes it look like the vinyl side should be facing down, not the foam.

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 483376)

Son of a bitch, you are right. :(

:rofl2:

Other than that though, great write-up. That should give me all the info I need to do the install myself.

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 483388)

:rofl2:

Other than that though, great write-up. That should give me all the info I need to do the install myself.

Good thing I have lots of LLP left over. Now I just need to decide whether or not its worth ripping up and redoing. I wonder if it really makes that big of a difference?

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 483376)

Um... The pictures are just pictures of the product.

Is this the one you are talking about?

http://www.secondskinaudio.com/tdc/_...ts/med_281.JPG

Not sure how misleading they can be.. Especially when the instructions we emailed you tell you exactly how to install it.

Did you not read the instructions we sent?

ANT

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 483763)

Good thing I have lots of LLP left over. Now I just need to decide whether or not its worth ripping up and redoing. I wonder if it really makes that big of a difference?

Performance wise it will make a big difference.
Well, it will if you use a good amount of material.
If you only use let say... 1 sheet, then in either case it is not nearly enough to do the full car, so you wouldnt get good results either way.
If you installed 5 sheets in all upside down, then yes, it would make a huge difference..

ANT

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Originally Posted by Second Skin (Post 490067)

Mainly because it shows the foam side up in that picture. I did read the instructions, poorly. :(

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Originally Posted by Second Skin (Post 490074)

Honestly, I don't think it is even possible to use too much more in the trunk area. You could possibly stretch it to 1 1/2 sheets in the trunk, but I think fitment of the panels/styrofoam would be a real issue even with that much installed.

In a month or so I'm going to take apart the car again and redo the LLP in the trunk. It shouldn't take too much time, maybe 3-4 hours total, so it's not a huge deal, just a bit of a pain.

I still noticed a pretty big difference in road noise, so I'm still happy with the results even if it is upside-down.

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 492211)

I still noticed a pretty big difference in road noise, so I'm still happy with the results even if it is upside-down.

Glad to hear you like the results.
You can imagine how our customers feel that use the right amount to sound deadening the entire car.
The difference is night and day!

ANT

ANT,

Apologies to you and the forum - I had some personal stuff come up and had to delay my install. I will install your product this upcoming Tuesday and will post the results ASAP.

FYI, got the damplifier down over the weekend (have half of a sheet left), will hopefully do the LLP this weekend and post results.

I got my install started today, more details in my journal

Hey Ant,

I'm planning on redoing the LLP in my hatch area, but somehow I've managed to run low on the adhesive spray. Is there something comparable that I can buy at like Home Depot/Lowes? I'd rather not spend $18 + $12 shipping just for a can of adhesive.

I found this at Home Depot:
Contact 80 Neoprene Vinyl Spray Adhesive - 80 at The Home Depot Will that work fine?

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 511112)

I have never used that specific type but it looks solid.
The only considerationi s how much heat it can withstand.
Some adhesives will melt at 150-180 f.
As long as it can take the heat, you will be fine..

ANT

Okay thanks. It says 200 degrees Fahrenheit. Think that is sufficient?

I still owe you a review. things are getting hectic around here since I'm having a baby this weekend, but wanted to let you know I didn't forget. It has made a nice difference in the noise volumes, and now that I have speakers in the door i'm wishing I had saved a little damplifier for the doors. Might end up ordering a bit more :tup:

I've got pics on my camera and just need time to upload them to the site and do a write-up.

While I didn't end up claiming the prize in this giveaway, i did order a ton of tiles and 4 sheet of Luxury Liner pro. These products made a world of difference in the noise levels in my car. I put them throughout the entire trunk and under both seats. The car is MUCH quieter now. I think once I update the tires the sound will be even better.

A few pics attached. More are available in my stereo build album.
http://www.the370z.com/members/txspe...underneath.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/txspe...-under-mat.jpg

I still need to redo my LLP. Did all the panels fit back in with that much LLP? It didn't seem like that would be possible.

Yeah everything fit back on. I was able to fit all the stock clamps/pin in as well except one.

http://www.the370z.com/members/txspe...al-install.jpg

In this picture you can see the pin that goes on the right side (with the little ring) isn't in there. I'm able to get it into the plastic, but not into the metal bracket behind. So it ends up falling out all the time. The panel is on there really tight though so I'll prob just put some 3M tape behind the plug to get it to stay in the panel so there isn't a whole there.

Ah, cool. I'll be more aggressive then when I redo it... perhaps on Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by Second Skin (Post 362878)

Hello again!

To help generate some noise about our noise and heat control products on the370z.com we are going to hold a give away.

Roughly $1500 worth of free Second Skin Sound Deadening to help reduce tire noise, or some of the more obnoxious exhaust note some of you get when modifying your Z.

We will be selecting 10 winners from this site, each of which will be getting the following sound damping products:

40 SPL Tiles
This product is a vibration damper that comes in small sheets. Simply remove the release paper and apply the tiles on the interior of the cars sheet metal, evenly spaced out through the entire car, with a bit more attention in the rear wheel wells and quarter panels.
Remember though, these product are Vibration dampers and will only address structure borne noise.

2 sheets Luxury Liner Pro
This is our best MLV noise barrier (mass loaded vinyl)
Luxury Liner Pro will go on top of the vibration mat, to reduce the transfer of airborne sound waves. These will go on top of the rear wheel wells, quarter panels, and floor surrounding the wheel wells to block out the Tire noise from the back half of the car.

If you wanted to do the entire car, to make it quiet as a new luxury car, you would use about 120 tiles and 5 sheets of Luxury Liner Pro.
The package we are giving away is just a starter kit, but will give you some pretty nice results.

If you are interested, here are the rules:

1. Must have a post count of 50 on this forum
2. Must be a forum member for minimum of 3 months
3. Must install all of the products we provide
4. Must install the products within 6 weeks of getting them
5. Must take a minimum of 8 pictures of the installation, and post a build log on this forum and at least 1 other automotive or audio related website within two weeks of installing the products.
6. Cannot sell these products or use them in more than 1 car
7. Must have a US shipping address and agree to pay for shipping charges
8. Must contact us within 72 hours of the contests end if you are selected as a winner

If you agree and qualify to these terms, please post the following information in this thread:

1. Post your Forum user name
2. State that you qualify to the above terms and agree to follow through with them as they are written.
3. Post a description of your car with current mods (if any)
4. Post how you plan on helping promote Second Skin, and list the other web site you will post your build log on.
5. You must tell us something about yourself that nobody on this forum knows about you

We will select the winners in the next week or so.
Winners will be sent a coupon code to be used at our website; Sound Deadening Materials for Noise Reduction from Second Skin
The coupon code will be active for 1 week only.

Thank you everyone for your attention and participation

ANT
Sound Deadening Materials for Noise Reduction from Second Skin

I see that this offer is for 370Z's; however, is the offer available for a Lotus Exige S?

This offer is almost a year old, and SecondSkin was sold to another company, so between those two things, I highly doubt it. I also doubt they know this forum exists.