Obama Sucks
 

Is it just me or are they trying to make Obama more than what he is. You see him on t.v all day long acting like a celebrity more than a president. What i hate about this dude is that he blows money not to mention world leaders. He bends over and spreads em for every other country saying that we need to open communications with them. News flash, russia,iran,venezuela etc dont give a flying F*** about us so why are we trying to bring them to the table when the underlying truth is they hate us. Im not saying john mccain was the right guy( too old.sad to say)But obama is a complete disappointment. Im not white and ill be the first to say that people voted for him only because hes black. Seems people cant find anything else to make an impact in history books so they ended up voting for this clown in order to later say.. i was there when he got elected. I swear his term cannot end soon enough. People refer to this guy as the anti christ. I dont know if ill go that far but ill tell you this much. If in his term they try to lift the length of terms a president can get elected(2) then ill definately start wondering whether this guy is or not.. This is off topic a bit but i just got to let it out i know not think that black people are 3 times as racist as white people. On BET they say white people this white people that, god forbid you call obama...Obaboon and they wanna tie you in the square, soak you in gasoline and ignite you(jesse jackson and Rev sharpton holding the torches) I really hate the direction this country is going in... O.k done now..

I would agree with you, but I am white, and people might think that was racist of me.

I disagree but freedom of speech is what makes this country great.

From a strictly economic perspective ..... monetary policy ..... not skin color, I don't agree with how he is trying to spend us out of a recession. This thing will run it's course, they always do, and there needed to be some market corrections, as bad as it hurts. But the spiraling deficit is going to be a bi**h to deal with.

John

A lot can be said about Obama. A lot... During that whole Samalian pirate issue, I was reading about his new puppy. An american is being held hostage by pirates on an oil freighter and we're reading about a ******* PUPPY.

Amen......... gotta love those Navy Seals though!

John

He might take that away after he takes our right to bear arms :tiphat:

I'll give it a while longer before I pass judgment. He actually seems to be getting a lot accomplished, we just don't all agree with those accomplishments.

I won't judge a president until he's had time to establish just what kind of leader he is. I'm just judging our ****** up media coverage on him.

The boston herald had a animated picture that summed up the whole deficit aspects and how the media is making a big deal about his stupid dog quite nicely. I couldnt find it online but its obama up to his neck in water(depicted as deficit)and him saying atleast i got a portugese water dog. It was the funniest thing yet so true.

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You're not the first to say it, unfortunately. I've heard a lot of people say that and it saddens me quite a bit, because I believe the majority of people voted for him because they actually felt he was the better choice. It feels like people are cheapening that and turning it into a race issue when that has nothing to do with it.

From these cold dead hands......

Pretty soon there won't be a lot of personal freedoms left and all we'll have is huge inflation to pay for all this free money. By the way, did you get any $$ ??
I think a lot of people voted for this guy thinking they were going to get a free ride. Nothing in this world is free, someone, somewhere, had to make it.
Freedom ain't free!

We get money in the form of a 14 dollar tax relief per week! WOO!

Where the hell were you people when Bush was running up massive deficits and the republicans controlled both house and senate???

And who effing cares about the puppy? Obama doesn't tell the media which stories to run. You may not agree with him on everything, I don't, but give him more than a few months to solve all the problems he inherited.

IMO most people didn't vote for him because of his skin color, they voted for him because they thought he was the best choice, and a few months is not enough time to see how his decisions pan out. In business it's common to say "you've got to spend money to make money." Do you think our financial system would have righted itself in a short time without some sort of government intervention? I don't. And if Obama hadn't done anything at all the same shrill whiners would be bitching and moaning about his lack of effort to fix the economy. Since we seem to have so many economist Nobel winners in here, about about you throw out some legitimate suggestions?

BTW, I am a gun owner and I have a concealed carry permit. There is no way Obama is going to take away our guns, it's nothing but fear mongering/pandering from the right. It does suck right now because all the conspiracy theorists keep buying up all of the GD ammo! I can't even go to the range right now.

Ok.... Are you guys serious? Youcantzme must be a Rush Limbaugh drone.
Here is a graph just to show how big spenders dems are.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...it_graphic.gif

now I wont judge Obama until election time comes around but i think he is just doing a lot of damage control and doing an alright job.
Obama will not take away your guns and I am sick of this pandering , he has biger problems and that's all I will say on that.

WOOT Pushing Tin :tup:

Thanks for the graph cracker, + rep for digging that up!

Dude + rep for you. I wasn't going to touch this because it seemed way to troll-ish for me but you pretty much summed up exactly how I feel. BTW I can't buy any ammo either. You have to get to sportsman's warehouse on the day of the shipment in the morning and there are already crazed scared people lining up to buy it all up. So frustrating!

+ rep to Liftedcracker too. I jump in too quick when it comes to these conversations and many times kill the thread with my opinions so its nice to see some others out there with interest in rationality and legitimate research before jumping on the condemning bandwagon.

Thanks! And I didn't even comment on the outrage du jour. Obama trying to normalize relations with Cuba and shaking hands with Chavez. The right was outraged, OUTRAGED I tell you!! And I don't understand why. What has 50 years of isolation gotten us in the fight against communism? Nowhere. What did isolating Chavez do for us? Nothing except make him an attention whore throwing tantrums. I see nothing absolutely wrong with engaging other countries and leaders. We don't have to agree with them, but the respectful thing to do is at least listen.

When we have a fight or disagreement with a wife or friend do we just knock them around or ignore them? Not if we want to have a relationship we don't. Running around the world and kicking the asses of people we don't agree with hasn't gotten us anywhere in the last 50 years, I for one am happy to see Obama taking a different approach with his foreign policy.


**OT** What kind of guns do you have? I have a Kahr PM9, a S&W M&P 9 and a Remington 810 pump action shotgun for home defense.

S&W .40, Norinco SKS, 1930's Rossi .38 Special 5 shot. Want to buy a Mossberg 12 gauge but not at these prices. My SKS shot from around $700 to about $1500 in a matter of months. Craziness!

You know whats funny we reelected george bush for a second term and no one really challenge him about his decisions about iraq till his second term, yet our current president has only been in charge for 3-4 months and the right is bashing him already. People forgot that he inherited the economy we in right now and the wars we fighting. Is it he's fault that the media covered his dog other than the hostage pirate crisis, he trusted the military to make the kill when the hostage life was in danger and he made the right call and handled it quietly and beautifully.

The fear mongering that the republicans is doing is going a lil out of hand, show me a clip or an interview where obama says that he's going to take guns out of peoples hands. People are afraid that he's going to raise tax, but those tax money goes back to the community to build bridges and fix roads etc, it pretty much comes back to you. I'm not a Obama nuthugger at all there's still some decisions that he made i don't agree with at all.

But pls stop the fear mongering, when you hear rush limbaugh says I wish that president obama fail and you hear other republicans like Bobby Jindal actually defend him is an outrage they pretty much said they want their country to fail. I've been in the military for 7 years and when i hear someone says that they want my commander in chief to fail, i think thats the most unpratriotic and disrespectuf act to all my fellow brothers who died fighting for their country.

Sorry about the rant it just irritates me when people bash my commander in chief whether their republican or democrat based on incorrect facts.

that graph wouldnt hold how much O.B. has spent = 4000 billion...:happydance:

or 4 trillion if u think that sounds smaller over the next few yrs

edit.. i saw on tv today that they are now buying office supplies in bulk.. should save 100million over 15yrs.. that should really help out

heres biden on his views of gun owners
YouTube - Biden thinks gun owner should have his head examined
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHew...om=PL&index=40

im not a dem or a rep.. i think its time we all wake up and see how both parties are with one goal of total control and power of this country buy any means.. buying votes with free healthcare or free foodstamps or free citizenship whatever it takes to get your vote while slowly taking your freedoms and rights, so as to make it harder for the truth to come out. But 90% of america doesnt care what happens as long as they have a TV to watch and dollar hamburgers at Mc'ds. slowly we will be told what car to drive how much energy we can use in are homes, how we have to raise are kids..
but there is some good new.. i think the country will go broke before they can trash the entire constitution. then people will wake up.. when they dont get there S.S. checks or welfare , foodstamps, medicare, and the hamburgers go from 1 dollar to 2.

^Obama is going to trash the constitution? What did Bush do?

Obama has been officially in office for 97 days. How many did G.W. serve. Seems a little early to call judgment.

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I have a suggestion! :happydance:
1)How about we let the economy fix itself ( OMG!?!?!) rather then spending money? (also btw, for those complaining about Bush's spending, Obama has already surpassed that.... Bush was in term for 8 years. Obama has been in term for...?)

2)IMO spending money for people to have free condoms, coupons to buy tvs, food stamps to buy beer, and giving out free cell phones w/ free minutes isn't going to boost the ****ing economy either. ALL thoese items are PRIVILEGES! Those are items that I have to work for, why is it fair for others not to work for these same items????

3)I say we reinstate the draft. Make people actually show faith in their country again. Free food, free education and all you have to do is serve your country. This same country that has given you an opportunity to live your dreams. "Ask not what this country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

4)Release all the stoners from jail, actually enforce the death penalty for murderes, rapist, child molesters. Start making examples of people for the serious crimes they commit rather than holding them in a jail; giving them 3 square meals a day while they sit back on their cot watching tv. I believe in "Eye for an Eye."

5)Get rid of all the labor unions!

6)It is a BS excuse for anyone to say they can't find a job right now. It may not be a job that you desire, but too bad. GROW UP AND BE A MAN!
I am not having a blast working two jobs right now.. but guess what. I Like driving my car, I like living in my own house. I like having my own personal possesions that I have bust my *** off to have. I am not going to b*tch out and ask for government assistance to TAKE what isn't mine.

The government can not help people who CHOOSE not to help themselves.

Says the guy who isn't living in the state behind Michigan for worst unemployment. Yeah we have kids with Masters degrees here either moving out of state or working for MC'D's...and there's a line.

12.1% is awful

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Clinton made it so that any dumb*ss without a job could get credit, look at the housing market now. Clinton was the one that got rid of all the regulations for Fanny May Freddie Mac...and we are reaping from his ideology

Do I get a rep point for doing my research and making the graph look retarded now?

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Like I said, it may not be a job that you like right now, but grow up and stop sucking off the tit of the government.

Or you can plan ahead for the future. Invest your money into some land, plant some rice patties, and hopefully keep your job as a farmer when China comes and tells us what do to :stirthepot:

Banning Z funny how your trying to say bush trashed the constitution. the whole guatanamo bay fiasco is stupidity. They say we shouldnt torture the terriorists. Well new flash they wouldnt have a problem decapitating one of us on national t.v. Not to mention how stupid people protest against it so bad, I would like the C.i.a to do what Cheaney said to do and release the memos showing the informations that was taking out of those terrorist via waterboarding because im sure it directly led to the capture or death of high al qaeda leaders which in turn by doing so its keep us a little bit safer here. Wouldnt you call that biting the hand that feeds you?

BagerX your are 1000% correct. Clinton was the one that let every joe,****, and harry get a loan without a job or verification. Another reason that chart shows the U.S doing well was because that was part of the .COM boom which ultimately crashed as well but that wasnt taken into consideration was it.

First let me say, I truely am greatful that you choose to serve/protect our country, and I applaud you for that.

2nd, I feel the same as you. But when our current Commander in Cheif goes around apologizing for our actions in the past? My grandfather fought and died for this country, and our current president wants to apologize to these other nations who wanted to blow us off the map??? He can go **** himself.

^Do you think its absurd that Germany apologized for its past mistakes in war and relations?(not trying to pull Godwin's law here) They are our allies and one of our major medical bases for hurt soldiers.

I applaud humility.

No, I don't think it is absurd for Germany to apologize for exterminating thousands of their own people.

The USA on the other hand; no, I don't feel we should apologize for anything.

Germany = millions

Iraq + Afghanistan = thousands

banning z what are you talking about are you mental?? Germany commited genocide my friend how do you even dare compare the U.S.A's actions with those of Germany in the past. I havent seen the U.S take over canada and mexico and kill millions of their civilians for being french or mexican( thats what germany did in europe to its neighbors) And the only reason theres a military base in Germany is because its convenient to us. We can keep an eye on that region and it helps with our troops abroad.

BTW im not sure if your aware or not but we have a contract with iraq that we signed back during desert storm that we would keep troops there over the next 100 yrs to stabalize the area and afganistan is basically the wild wild west. there is no order there, thats why its vital that we stay there since its a breeding ground for terrorism. Sure theres always going to be colateral damage and civilians are going to be hurt or killed but what you dont see is U.S soldiers putting civilians from towns against the wall and killing them, then burying em in mass graves. Obama apologizing is an embarrasment in fact it should be our so called allies apologize to us because the idiots in the united nations arent supporting us in iraq and afganistan when in fact the U.S being in those two places impacts and assures the well being of everyone.

This isn't a war pissing contest. War sucks. It kills innocent people and good men and women that fight for the very freedoms we appreciate everyday. The comparison was used as an example of an offensive war that they later were able to apologize for. BTW did you see the Godwin's law thing in parenthesis?

Just some FYI: my Grand parents are Jewish survivors that made it through the war and they see what has happened in the last 6 years and they disapprove of our actions. It doesn't mean they are right but they sure are fans of Obama who experienced a lot worse than most of us.

Banningz do you think it was wrong for the U.S. to stop Germany back then ? Ask your grandparents if they wish Germany hadn't been stopped from all that genocide and see what they say. Stopping Genocide is a large reason we are there now..well that and the bomb thing but the bomb thing was rediculous IMO.