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Originally Posted by B1nks Banningz do you think it was wrong for the U.S. to stop Germany back then ? Ask your grandparents if they wish Germany hadn't been stopped

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Old 04-22-2009, 10:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Banningz do you think it was wrong for the U.S. to stop Germany back then ? Ask your grandparents if they wish Germany hadn't been stopped from all that genocide and see what they say. Stopping Genocide is a large reason we are there now..well that and the bomb thing but the bomb thing was rediculous IMO.
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. This was defined in the UN convention of 1948.

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(CPPCG). Article 2, of this convention defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
Fighting against, Germany, Italy and Japan was an instant result of an attack on our own soil. We only decided to go in once we were hit. We refused to join the war before that point. When did Iraq attack us?

I regards to genocide and its definition? Bush said that our enemies have no borders, yet we targeted Islamic groups and specific nations. There are extremist groups in every religion, group and city of every planet on earth whether they be two people or 5000. What we could have done was attack the extremist groups in Pakistan and Afghanistan with help from the local governments but instead we left Pakistan alone and sent most of our forces to Iraq. I support our troops and encourage our nation to spread goodwill and security but I think Iraq was a strategic move and we had an opportunity to jump in there after the attacks on our soil again.
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"Fighting against, Germany, Italy and Japan was an instant result of an attack on our own soil. We only decided to go in once we were hit. We refused to join the war before that point. When did Iraq attack us?"



Germany didnt attack us on our soil. Japan did, but that was after we were in the fight against germany, and we got in the fight against germany because of the instability they were causing in europe, as far as iraq goes they were an instability in the middle east. And yes this war is about oil, but we dont steal the oil. We are paying out of pocket to rebuild iraq and were paying for the oil. Now you say what are we gaining from this. well were getting the oil thats being refined and running your Z and we free the country from a tyrant. My former hair dresser was from Iraq and his father was killed by saddams people for no reason before he was able to escape to the U.S. Also my former co workers husband works as a translator for the marines in iraq where hes from. He got put before a firing squad and shot 11 times before being left for dead and he survived and is not helping us what in his own word are free his country. So dont get it twisted.
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Yea the bomb thing was stupid .. but who really knows, you know how can we be sure their werent any and they were moved to syria. o well. but if what your saying is that the united states should apologize for offending other countries F**K that when have you seen Putin,Byong kim, the azzhole from Iran or the jerkoff from Venezuela apologize for the stuff theyve done non the less said about the united states,, remember the chavez thing,, it smells of sulfer in here the devil was here yesterday refering to bush. then obama shakes this guys hand are you kidding me SERIOUSLY are you F**KING kidding me. I would have turned to the camera if i was obama and said this is the two facing goverments i deal with and this is why i dont talk to them, and turned my back on him and walked away, instead he shakes his hand, takes the stupid book and turns into a soft serve. We need a strong leader not some guy that wants to be friends with everyone because at the end of the day in the game of politics there are no friends and you have to look out for number one(meaning your country).
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This administration is also making it easy for the people from the ghetto to sit around at home and collect a check. One of obamas plans is to take money from the rich and give it to the poor. O.k lets think about that. where is the motivation of going to school,getting a job, trying to be prosperous in life if your living in the projects and your monthly check just got bumped from 1k to 1.5k. Now some might say thats not alot of money, well when your used to making due with 1k a month like alot of em are. an extra 500 bucks is like you getting a nice raise at work, only they dont have to work and show performance to get it. If anything they should start cutting down on goverment assistance so that it lights a fire under peoples asses and have them start trying to make something out of themselves. Because if you really look at it what its going to do its spread the gap between the rich/poor greater rather than closing it. The rich will not lose theyll make the money they want from the middle class and alot of the middle class will fall into the poor catagory.
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A good response to much of the above. : WikiAnswers - Why did the US become involved in World War 2

On topic its nice to see someone from outside this country express an opinion about Obama. 97 days he been in office, give the guy some breathing room. George W. Bush spent 1020 days on vacation. More than 1/3rd of his presidency. Bush set the record for most vacation time taken by president.

Lets just see what happens.
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A good response to much of the above. : WikiAnswers - Why did the US become involved in World War 2

On topic its nice to see someone from outside this country express an opinion about Obama. 97 days he been in office, give the guy some breathing room. George W. Bush spent 1020 days on vacation. More than 1/3rd of his presidency. Bush set the record for most vacation time taken by president.

Lets just see what happens.
So I take it you wanted to see former President Bush in the White House more?


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Love how we nicely forget about the people responsible for leaving us in this situation in the first place... the elite few who made away with the loot... Law of conservation of wealth people... it does not disappear... just moves hands
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Love how we nicely forget about the people responsible for leaving us in this situation in the first place... the elite few who made away with the loot... Law of conservation of wealth people... it does not disappear... just moves hands
The primary driver for the recession is a very large amount of housing loan defaults. The banks got left holding the bag after paying off the builders when the borrowers could no longer pay them back. AIG and the like are getting killed on insuring these loans that went bad. Who are "the elite few who made off with the loot"?
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The primary driver for the recession is a very large amount of housing loan defaults. The banks got left holding the bag after paying off the builders when the borrowers could no longer pay them back. AIG and the like are getting killed on insuring these loans that went bad. Who are "the elite few who made off with the loot"?
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People think the economy is bad now. But people forget that nothing is stoping these multibillion dollar corporations from taking their business over seas and say," Screw the US. "
Money would definitley change hands then.
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problem is we dont make anything any more and the things that we do it cost us an eighth of the price to just get it from china. same quality. then if we make good quality stuff because of unions and others it costs a fortune where in other countries theyll make good quality stuff at a lesser price. its like getting hit with a double edge sword,f**ked either way.
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Osama bin laden is A) dead or B) in a place like syria or iran where he cant be touched without more people bitching about what were doing.
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Osama bin laden is A) dead or B) in a place like syria or iran where he cant be touched without more people bitching about what were doing.
That's pretty impressive! There's a $50 million dollar reward for this info you know.
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suuure MATE. lol
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