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TreeSemdyZee 01-14-2013 11:04 PM

Playing with a new lens last spring.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...oofin-0454.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...oofin-0433.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...oofin-0426.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...oofin-0418.jpg

cgust 01-14-2013 11:24 PM

Hey everyone! Some great shot in this thread. I love photography and can't wait to take some shots of my Z this spring. Here are a few shots of my usual subjects though. Thanks for looking!

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...Mallard4-L.jpg

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...d-Plover-L.jpg

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...-Phoebe1-L.jpg

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...het-Owl2-L.jpg

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...d-Deer20-L.jpg

TreeSemdyZee 01-15-2013 08:39 AM

^^^^^Awesome!


I suck. :mad:

cgust 01-15-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2112147)
^^^^^Awesome!
I suck. :mad:

Everyone starts somewhere. Just try and get as close to the subject as possible to avoid cropping. Get low (eye level) and keep the sun towards your back. :tup:

LunaZ 01-15-2013 12:48 PM

That owl shot is amazing!

Red__Zed 01-15-2013 12:49 PM

Great shots. I love the owl and mallard

Red__Zed 01-15-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2100639)
:tiphat: thank you sir.

No post-editing, just some cropping, since they were shoot with a 35mm Marco

Polo

cgust 01-15-2013 01:52 PM

Thanks guys! That owl is a Northern Saw-Whet Owl. Its very small and can probably fit in your shirt pocket. Very fortunate to have been there to get that shot.

cgust 01-15-2013 02:03 PM

Couple more shots :)

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/.../Osprey3-L.jpg

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...-Grouse1-L.jpg

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...er-Swan1-L.jpg

http://www.regalwildlife.com/Nature/...od-Duck7-L.jpg

darkside370z 01-15-2013 03:45 PM

some of my shots ive taken

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...y/DSC_0447.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...y/DSC_0182.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...y/DSC_0141.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...y/DSC_0495.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...y/DSC_0466.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9bb025ed.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...ps65842c12.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...psd32cc31b.jpg

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/...ps26dfddc4.jpg

HKYStormFront 01-15-2013 06:37 PM

wow! some jaw dropping shots on this page!

TreeSemdyZee 01-15-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2112342)
Everyone starts somewhere. Just try and get as close to the subject as possible to avoid cropping. Get low (eye level) and keep the sun towards your back. :tup:

What lens are you shooting with most?

Cmike2780 01-15-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2113209)
What lens are you shooting with most?

I'm gonna guess long and fast. Those pics are super sharp.

TreeSemdyZee 01-15-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2113238)
I'm gonna guess long and fast. Those pics are super sharp.

And he probably doesn't twitch like a leaf in a wind storm like I do. :icon14:

Boost_lee 01-15-2013 09:16 PM

Great stuff in here! This thread makes me want to get behind the camera more often


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8069/8...fc32392a_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8326/8...21c6562a_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/...a830ea5c_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8350/8...7bddd3b9_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5122/5...b18e9036_b.jpg

I'm at the point where I want to upgrade my gear, but I'm torn between new glass or a new body. I'm currently shooting with a T1i and thinking about getting a 7d or jumping to a full frame 5d. Any input from full frame shooters vs crop sensor?

TreeSemdyZee 01-15-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

I'm at the point where I want to upgrade my gear, but I'm torn between new glass or a new body. I'm currently shooting with a T1i and thinking about getting a 7d or jumping to a full frame 5d. Any input from full frame shooters vs crop sensor?
I'm a HUGE fan of good glass. When I bought my 7d, I bought the consumer-level kit lenses. My brother gave me a 70-200 f4. Quickly thereafter, I sold my kit lenses.
I love my 7d, which is awesome for sports, which I love to shoot. I am looking to get a full-frame to go with it though.

Boost_lee 01-15-2013 09:42 PM

I priced some local lens and body rentals, maybe I should try that first? Lens prices are reasonable, but the bodies are a bit high - I think $100/day for a 5d mkii

cgust 01-15-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2113209)
What lens are you shooting with most?

Right now I have a Nikon D300 and a Sigma 300mm f2.8 OS and usually use a 1.4x teleconverter for nature stuff. I started out a couple years ago with the Sigma 50-500mm non OS version. Then went to the Nikon 300mm f2.8 VRI and then had the Sigma 800mm f5.6 and then the newest Nikon 500mm f4 VRII. However, since finishing school and now working full time its tough to get out as often. So now I'm with the Sigma 300/2.8OS. I have a hard time making up my mind sometimes :tiphat: But I have a bit of experience through all that so if you guys have any questions feel free to ask!

cgust 01-15-2013 10:30 PM

Boost_Lee you should check out Lensrentals.com. Reasonable rates and I've used them a few times and would definitely recommend them. The new entry level dslrs are getting pretty good but good glass can last a lifetime. Glass is where you should put your money I'd say.

onzedge 01-16-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2111880)
Hey everyone! Some great shot in this thread. I love photography and can't wait to take some shots of my Z this spring. Here are a few shots of my usual subjects though. Thanks for looking!

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Great work -- I am partial to Minnesota shots as well. I spend a great deal of time up in Otter Tail County.

cgust 01-16-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2113546)
Great work -- I am partial to Minnesota shots as well. I spend a great deal of time up in Otter Tail County.

Thanks! Im hoping to get up to that area this spring for waterfowl.

Cmike2780 01-16-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boost_lee (Post 2113314)
I priced some local lens and body rentals, maybe I should try that first? Lens prices are reasonable, but the bodies are a bit high - I think $100/day for a 5d mkii

Don't waste your money on the camera body rental just to try it out. Renting the lenses is okay, but I'd rather try it out in the store for free and put the money towards the actual lens you want to buy.

As you know, a better body isn't going to give you better pictures...just makes it easier to work with if you take A LOT of pictures. Your camera is more than capable of creating awesome shots. Better glass is the better investment if you want to improve your shots. I'm not familiar with Canon lens line, but I would go for the ones designed for full-frame if you want to upgrade to a full-frame camera later. Your shots are pretty good as it is, so you should ask yourself what kind of shots would be improved with your next lens.

A crop sensor is going to be a better route if you shoot more in telephoto because of the "extra" reach. Most of the crop sensor cameras are also physically smaller and lighter. Full Frame is better as an all around camera, but will leave your wallet a lot lighter. If you take a lot of low light shots without a tripod, the higher ISO processing on the high end cameras will help a bit also. There's no mistaking that the pro full frame cameras are better, but you should really think about whether or not paying 3 times as much is worth the marginal difference in getting the shot. For someone shooting hundreds of frames a day, its worth it. Someone like myself though, who only shoots on the weekend...if that, it's overkill. This is kind of why I really like how Full Frames have gotten less expensive in recent years. It's kind of why I really like Nikon's D600. It's closer to justify the next step up without spending an insane amount.

If you do go full frame, chances are the lenses you have will limit you eventually. Most of your shots will look exactly the same when you switch to the new body and use your existing lenses.

onzedge 01-16-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2113720)
Thanks! Im hoping to get up to that area this spring for waterfowl.

:tup:

We have a big chunk of property in Battle Lake and go there one or two times per year.

TreeSemdyZee 01-16-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2113346)
Right now I have a Nikon D300 and a Sigma 300mm f2.8 OS and usually use a 1.4x teleconverter for nature stuff. I started out a couple years ago with the Sigma 50-500mm non OS version. Then went to the Nikon 300mm f2.8 VRI and then had the Sigma 800mm f5.6 and then the newest Nikon 500mm f4 VRII. However, since finishing school and now working full time its tough to get out as often. So now I'm with the Sigma 300/2.8OS. I have a hard time making up my mind sometimes :tiphat: But I have a bit of experience through all that so if you guys have any questions feel free to ask!

How do you like the Sigmas? I keep finding complaints about auto focus speeds. Of course in realm of Canon, it doesn't seem like most of the Sigmas are any cheaper, so I'm not sure of the advantages.

TreeSemdyZee 01-16-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2113786)
Don't waste your money on the camera body rental just to try it out. Renting the lenses is okay, but I'd rather try it out in the store for free and put the money towards the actual lens you want to buy.

As you know, a better body isn't going to give you better pictures...just makes it easier to work with if you take A LOT of pictures. Your camera is more than capable of creating awesome shots. Better glass is the better investment if you want to improve your shots. I'm not familiar with Canon lens line, but I would go for the ones designed for full-frame if you want to upgrade to a full-frame camera later. Your shots are pretty good as it is, so you should ask yourself what kind of shots would be improved with your next lens.

A crop sensor is going to be a better route if you shoot more in telephoto because of the "extra" reach. Most of the crop sensor cameras are also physically smaller and lighter. Full Frame is better as an all around camera, but will leave your wallet a lot lighter. If you take a lot of low light shots without a tripod, the higher ISO processing on the high end cameras will help a bit also. There's no mistaking that the pro full frame cameras are better, but you should really think about whether or not paying 3 times as much is worth the marginal difference in getting the shot. For someone shooting hundreds of frames a day, its worth it. Someone like myself though, who only shoots on the weekend...if that, it's overkill. This is kind of why I really like how Full Frames have gotten less expensive in recent years. It's kind of why I really like Nikon's D600. It's closer to justify the next step up without spending an insane amount.

If you do go full frame, chances are the lenses you have will limit you eventually. Most of your shots will look exactly the same when you switch to the new body and use your existing lenses.

Avoid the EF-S lenses and you're good for full-frame. L lenses are the top of the pile. Pile of cash, but excellent lenses.

cgust 01-16-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 2115098)
How do you like the Sigmas? I keep finding complaints about auto focus speeds. Of course in realm of Canon, it doesn't seem like most of the Sigmas are any cheaper, so I'm not sure of the advantages.

Ive seen quite a bit of complaints on the net about sigma's quality control but I've had great luck with them so far. I also think the amount of complaints has dropped significantly over the last few years and sigma is becoming a big competitor. Comparing my sigma 120-300/2.8OS to the nikon 300/2.8VRI... the AF speed is faster in the nikon (which im assuming is the same speed as canon) but the sigma is no slouch and I can track birds in flight just fine. I cant think of a reason I'd need it any faster. Plus the sigma has to move much more glass because it is a zoom lens. Sharpness goes to my sigma though. Its definitely the sharpest lens ive owned and Ive had my share of good nikon glass. So...Id recommend sigma for sure! Before buying just be sure to read reviews and lean toward the EX versions or their new Art and Sport models.

TreeSemdyZee 01-16-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2115207)
Ive seen quite a bit of complaints on the net about sigma's quality control but I've had great luck with them so far. I also think the amount of complaints has dropped significantly over the last few years and sigma is becoming a big competitor. Comparing my sigma 120-300/2.8OS to the nikon 300/2.8VRI... the AF speed is faster in the nikon (which im assuming is the same speed as canon) but the sigma is no slouch and I can track birds in flight just fine. I cant think of a reason I'd need it any faster. Plus the sigma has to move much more glass because it is a zoom lens. Sharpness goes to my sigma though. Its definitely the sharpest lens ive owned and Ive had my share of good nikon glass. So...Id recommend sigma for sure! Before buying just be sure to read reviews and lean toward the EX versions or their new Art and Sport models.

Cool. Thanks for the info. Think I'll do some shopping.

LunaZ 01-17-2013 11:33 AM

How do y'all feel about UV filters?
Use them for lens protection, don't use them at all?
Notice a difference in IQ or can't tell any difference?

onzedge 01-17-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 2116168)
How do y'all feel about UV filters?
Use them for lens protection, don't use them at all?
Notice a difference in IQ or can't tell any difference?

All of my lenses have B+W UV MRC filters. They are there mainly for protection.

cgust 01-17-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 2116168)
How do y'all feel about UV filters?
Use them for lens protection, don't use them at all?
Notice a difference in IQ or can't tell any difference?

Your probably going to get mixed responses on this. I never use filters for protection. IMO its just another piece of glass that can possibly effect sharpness. Not sure if my big lenses even support a filter in the front to be honest? It would likely be expensive at that diameter I'd think..

HKYStormFront 01-17-2013 04:57 PM

yea i used to be big on UV filters... now i leave em bare unless i've got a CP on them and even then, it's a high dollar B+W filter, not some cheap wal mart crap

onzedge 01-17-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 2116779)
yea i used to be big on UV filters... now i leave em bare unless i've got a CP on them and even then, it's a high dollar B+W filter, not some cheap wal mart crap

You cannot beat B+W quality.

alcheng 01-17-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 2116168)
How do y'all feel about UV filters?
Use them for lens protection, don't use them at all?
Notice a difference in IQ or can't tell any difference?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2116302)
Your probably going to get mixed responses on this. I never use filters for protection. IMO its just another piece of glass that can possibly effect sharpness. Not sure if my big lenses even support a filter in the front to be honest? It would likely be expensive at that diameter I'd think..


UV filter is needed, unless the lenses used within the lens are glass.

Most of the less expensive lenses are using polycarbonate material, light rays (including UV) going through the lens elements to the sensor, from time to time, the UV will turn the polycarbonate material into yellowish thus affect the quality thus the lifespan of the lens itself.

A good quality UV+anti-reflection filter is essential.


Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2116796)
You cannot beat B+W quality.

:iagree: + Heliopan

cgust 01-17-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2116878)
UV filter is needed, unless the lenses used within the lens are glass.

Most of the less expensive lenses are using polycarbonate material, light rays (including UV) going through the lens elements to the sensor, from time to time, the UV will turn the polycarbonate material into yellowish thus affect the quality thus the lifespan of the lens itself.

This argument only works for film bodies. Film sensors are definitely susceptible to UV and it can change the exposure of the photo. So the use of a UV filter would be needed to mitigate this. However, Im going to guess that most of us use digital cameras and their sensors are not effected in the way you describe and using UV filters can even introduce flair and color casts.

LunaZ 01-17-2013 09:43 PM

Yeah, I have B+W on mine but I have been debating taking them off as well.

ZForce 01-17-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ (Post 2116168)
How do y'all feel about UV filters?
Use them for lens protection, don't use them at all?
Notice a difference in IQ or can't tell any difference?

The pros are still out to lunch on this debate stemming back to the SLR days. both have pro and cons and a little search -google on some of more renowned forums will keep your cup of tea refilling for hours.

Meh...UV until recently now Skylight , both give a different hue on skyline. Matter of preference.

Oh....and what beats B&W is Heliopan or any glass with Zeiis 's named stamped on it. Both make B&W seem like wal-fart quality....better BMW {bring more wallet) though, All a matter of opinion. :tiphat:

alcheng 01-17-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2117017)
This argument only works for film bodies. Film sensors are definitely susceptible to UV and it can change the exposure of the photo. So the use of a UV filter would be needed to mitigate this. However, Im going to guess that most of us use digital cameras and their sensors are not effected in the way you describe and using UV filters can even introduce flair and color casts.

uh..... buddy, my post was talking about UV damage on the polycarbonate lens....

cgust 01-17-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2117467)
uh..... buddy, my post was talking about UV damage on the polycarbonate lens....

Ha sorry never heard of this happening before. Must be a great lens indeed to be yellowed from the UV rays. :tup:

alcheng 01-18-2013 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgust (Post 2117496)
Ha sorry never heard of this happening before. Must be a great lens indeed to be yellowed from the UV rays. :tup:

In fact it's those cheap/less expensive lenses on the market nowadays.

They use polycarbonate instead of glass.

While glass provide better optical quality and will not turn yellowish, it is more costly.

Thus manufactures use polycarbonate thus to cut cost and weight. However, polycarbonate and plastic material lenses will turn yellowish from UV, thus the lens needs UV filter.

Well, if the lenses you are using are have glass lenses elements, then you are pretty much safe.

ZForce 01-18-2013 01:55 AM

Solution....shoot under low light indoors.


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