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Wiggins3377 02-09-2013 10:22 AM

Aftermarket Radiator Overflow Tank
 
I know these were offered by forum sponsors awhile back, but it appears there wasnt much interest so i cant seem to locate one. Send me a PM if you happended to grab one and would like to sell it.

Wiggins3377 02-09-2013 10:23 AM

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Best image of what I'm looking for.
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simota1 02-09-2013 02:25 PM

subbed... im looking for one too :D

muzik212 02-09-2013 02:59 PM

sub'd me 3!

MX52Z 02-09-2013 03:09 PM

Sub'd. Me 4.

Wonka2581 02-13-2013 10:06 PM

Me 5

Wiggins3377 03-19-2013 06:34 PM

Raise this thread from the dead. Anyone have one they are looking to sell?

sixpax 03-19-2013 07:27 PM

I think that was an old used to be vendor UAM and they only made a handful.

Wonka2581 03-19-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sixpax (Post 2222221)
I think that was an old used to be vendor UAM and they only made a handful.

Say it ain't so....

simota1 03-19-2013 08:38 PM

im gonna start making these tanks..... i might become a sponsor on here but at least 10 have to sign up with deposit so that i can make an actual profit out of these....

Wonka2581 03-19-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 2222369)
im gonna start making these tanks..... i might become a sponsor on here but at least 10 have to sign up with deposit so that i can make an actual profit out of these....

Come up with some unmbers, Ill be in...:tup:

Wiggins3377 03-19-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 2222369)
im gonna start making these tanks..... i might become a sponsor on here but at least 10 have to sign up with deposit so that i can make an actual profit out of these....

****. If you are gonna make them you should make some replicas of the ARC coolant/ oil catch can


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simota1 03-20-2013 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 2222430)
****. If you are gonna make them you should make some replicas of the ARC coolant/ oil catch can


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im pretty sure i can but my only prob is its so hard to find those damn aluminum fittings.... :( thats why i ended up buying the top secret oil catch cans... i can definitely make a arc rep... well... not TOTAL rep cuz you know i feel bad about making reps :shakes head:

Wiggins3377 03-20-2013 06:32 AM

I'd definitely contribute to the cause.


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DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 06:35 AM

Man, I'll talk to my shop here, lets see what I can get going...

Wiggins3377 03-20-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2222992)
Man, I'll talk to my shop here, lets see what I can get going...

Looking forward to hearing back... I was planning on getting one of these and having someone fabricate it to make it a coolant/ oil catch can combo.

Anyone know what is actually inside of an oil catch can?


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DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 2222998)
Looking forward to hearing back... I was planning on getting one of these and having someone fabricate it to make it a coolant/ oil catch can combo.

Anyone know what is actually inside of an oil catch can?


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Usually a bunch of steel wool


The question I have for everyone... Do you want a hose on the side so you can SEE how much fluid you have left???

theDreamer 03-20-2013 07:23 AM

In for more details, simota I know you have thought of this, but offer a combo for the power steering & coolant overflow together?

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2223024)
In for more details, simota I know you have thought of this, but offer a combo for the power steering & coolant overflow together?

(I play devil's advocate because I'm a realist, so please no one get butt hurt... And I have dealt with/know a lot of people to directly deal with metal/machining/welding and such.)

Offering a combo increases price to the point where economically it's stupid, but I guess there's less crap under your hood
A Mishimoto PS reservoir is cheaper than adding one to this...
Also, with regards to PS, you don't want to DECREASE the amount of fluid, you want to increase the hell out of it on our cars... It overheats quickly and god knows the fluid is REALLY turbulent

I'll check with my supplier and CNC guy, maybe it'll be cheaper... Or maybe easier to go with billet, machine it out, then weld a bottom piece on...


ANOTHER HUGE cost will be the lid, sounds dumb, but unless it's premade and it's just welded on, the cost will go up... And premade ones would likely be steel, not aluminum...

theDreamer 03-20-2013 07:36 AM

DE, I am referring to a combo buy of 2 individual pieces. Basically replace the PS & coolant tank with some nice fancy shiny stuff not 1 piece replacing 2 pieces. This way he can sell combos and build more, economics of scale, and possibly make more money.

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2223033)
DE, I am referring to a combo buy of 2 individual pieces. Basically replace the PS & coolant tank with some nice fancy shiny stuff not 1 piece replacing 2 pieces. This way he can sell combos and build more, economics of scale, and possibly make more money.

Ok, fair enough, in any case oil catch cans can be bought for CHEAP on eBay then add steel wool to make them work, and there already is a PS cooler on the market, so not sure how much there is to be made in that respect

theDreamer 03-20-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2223037)
Ok, fair enough, in any case oil catch cans can be bought for CHEAP on eBay then add steel wool to make them work, and there already is a PS cooler on the market, so not sure how much there is to be made in that respect

Is there an aftermarker PS tank though to replace the factory plastic one?

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2223043)
Is there an aftermarker PS tank though to replace the factory plastic one?

Yeah, Mishimoto makes one

theDreamer 03-20-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2223046)
Yeah, Mishimoto makes one

I have yet to see this....time to go digging.
I know they just released their radiator, finally.

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2223049)
I have yet to see this....time to go digging.
I know they just released their radiator, finally.

A friend has it, I told him to send pics

theDreamer 03-20-2013 07:50 AM

Looks like they make a vertical overflow tank also:
Aluminum Coolant Reservoir Tank, by Mishimoto

PS Tank:
Aluminum Power Steering Reservoir Tank, by Mishimoto

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2223057)

I was just about to say...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...7D47460FBE.jpg


Lol. Honestly, the coolant overflow tank is LITERALLY JUST a bottle, at least the PS cooler holds fluid that gets recirculated, lol

theDreamer 03-20-2013 07:54 AM

Yeah, both look fairly solid.
I would invest in a coolant tank that looked more OEM honestly, but the PS from Mishimoto could be a solid replacement.

Wiggins3377 03-20-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2223007)
Usually a bunch of steel wool


The question I have for everyone... Do you want a hose on the side so you can SEE how much fluid you have left???

Wow this thread had really heated up in the past two hours. I'd personally opt out of the clear hose on this side. At least if you make a coolant/ oil catch combo.


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DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 2223114)
Wow this thread had really heated up in the past two hours. I'd personally opt out of the clear hose on this side. At least if you make a coolant/ oil catch combo.


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Sorry, it's 6:30 and I haven't slept yet, so pardon the stupidity...
But do you mean heated up in a bad way? LOL
Or heated up as in got a lot of interest?

Wiggins3377 03-20-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2223118)
Sorry, it's 6:30 and I haven't slept yet, so pardon the stupidity...
But do you mean heated up in a bad way? LOL
Or heated up as in got a lot of interest?

Alot of interest and discussion, which is a great thing. Hopefully there are enough people out there interested so that this will actually happen for a decent price.

You can definately put me on the list as someone looking to do this ASAP, at least if the price is right.

simota1 03-20-2013 01:22 PM

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its funny you guys mention a power steering reservoir it was one of the first things i hated on our cars... ^^^^ pic above is actually a mishimoto oil catch can there was nothing in it.... empty like a coffee can.... what i did basically was bought one a while back but it didnt work as i dreamed off.... monday i came up with a way to make it work as a power steering reservoir :tup: i just ran it last night and it worked :D the next and last thing i still have to work on is the cap.... because it has to breathe DE makes a very good point about the fluid level.... even if its skinnier than the OE tank it carries more because its taller... (i made sure because i put all the old fluid in a container and then put it in the mishimoto one and it didnt go up to the half level....) im also not worried about the level because i have a stillen power steering cooler which increased my fluid capacity ;)

simota1 03-20-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2223028)
(I play devil's advocate because I'm a realist, so please no one get butt hurt... And I have dealt with/know a lot of people to directly deal with metal/machining/welding and such.)

Offering a combo increases price to the point where economically it's stupid, but I guess there's less crap under your hood
A Mishimoto PS reservoir is cheaper than adding one to this...
Also, with regards to PS, you don't want to DECREASE the amount of fluid, you want to increase the hell out of it on our cars... It overheats quickly and god knows the fluid is REALLY turbulent

I'll check with my supplier and CNC guy, maybe it'll be cheaper... Or maybe easier to go with billet, machine it out, then weld a bottom piece on...


ANOTHER HUGE cost will be the lid, sounds dumb, but unless it's premade and it's just welded on, the cost will go up... And premade ones would likely be steel, not aluminum...

DE is definitely correct on this one... i know it sounds dumb but the cap is the most costly part of this project because it would take my guys probably 2-3 hours from start to finish.... if you add that up that right there is about $180 of labor.... with that being said im definitely going to buy the caps premade and just weld them on... i found a site where the caps costs 50 shipped :tup: my last headache is the site glass.... i want people to just look at the side and see where the fluid is at and not have to peak in the tank with a flashlight.... i know the old UAM did not have a sight glass nor the fitting for the breather hose they just drilled a hole on the cap.... i am not to partial about just drilling out a hole on the cap because it will spit.... unless you make the cap a 2 piece breather cap so it wont spit....

basically guys i promise to keep the costs at the lowest but also keep in mind for the combo like DE said... the more i gotta do then the more the cost goes up.... with that being said i can easily see these things costing in the 300 range and the 400 range for the combo cans... now dont write those prices in stone please it could be less or a little bit more....

again i stress i will keep the costs as low as i can but labor is expensive and in the end i gotta make money so its worth my while..... only reason why im even going through this headache is my buddy in japan is asking to start making these "im guessing his gonna start selling these" and he has been a tremendous help in my build

Wiggins3377 03-20-2013 02:26 PM

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DE is definitely correct on this one... i know it sounds dumb but the cap is the most costly part of this project because it would take my guys probably 2-3 hours from start to finish.... if you add that up that right there is about $180 of labor.... with that being said im definitely going to buy the caps premade and just weld them on... i found a site where the caps costs 50 shipped :tup: my last headache is the site glass.... i want people to just look at the side and see where the fluid is at and not have to peak in the tank with a flashlight.... i know the old UAM did not have a sight glass nor the fitting for the breather hose they just drilled a hole on the cap.... i am not to partial about just drilling out a hole on the cap because it will spit.... unless you make the cap a 2 piece breather cap so it wont spit....

basically guys i promise to keep the costs at the lowest but also keep in mind for the combo like DE said... the more i gotta do then the more the cost goes up.... with that being said i can easily see these things costing in the 300 range and the 400 range for the combo cans... now dont write those prices in stone please it could be less or a little bit more....

again i stress i will keep the costs as low as i can but labor is expensive and in the end i gotta make money so its worth my while..... only reason why im even going through this headache is my buddy in japan is asking to start making these "im guessing his gonna start selling these" and he has been a tremendous help in my build

Those prices sound extremely fair to me. Are you planning to make a tank that looks close to the ARC one (seen below). I also think the breather hose is needed.

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simota1 03-20-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 2223888)
Those prices sound extremely fair to me. Are you planning to make a tank that looks close to the ARC one (seen below). I also think the breather hose is needed.

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breather hose is definitely needed..... :tup:... as long as i can find those aluminum fittings :tup:

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 02:41 PM

Sim, not trying to steal your thunder, for $300-400, I'm almost 100% sure I can get them machined from billet for, still leaves the cap...
You said you wanted to buy the caps... I assume that you can only find them in steel, steel and aluminum don't mix :shakeshead: you almost cannot weld them together... (I say almost because it IS plausible, just a MAJOR PIA)
Window is a good idea, but for an order of 10-50, it'll increase cost $50-100/each (If this sounds absurd to you guys, I promise, it's not, it's very realistic, or if you think it IS too much, lets all come up with a way for it to be economically viable)

My goal is sub $300 which either depends how many people I can get on board with a 50% down, and/or figuring a less expensive, not cheaper, way out. My #1 goal isn't making money, it's more helping the forum while keeping jobs in America vs China.

That said, I am still looking into other techniques, one option may have to be a NON threaded cap, kind of like a push on cap.
May sound ghetto, but if it's done well, it should be gold

DEpointfive0 03-20-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 2223900)
breather hose is definitely needed..... :tup:... as long as i can find those aluminum fittings :tup:

Welllllll... The breather is ONLY for the catch can (I don't mean to state the obvious)
Again, if we're dabbling with that, the price will be really high... And I don't think you would want to lower the capacity of your radiator fluid reservoir.

Also, since 70%~ of us have a CAI, there's already opened space to put oil catch cans there, so I don't think there is a reason to reinvent the wheel
(And I think those hoses are UGLY AS SIN) and they'll turn brown over time... Lol

simota1 03-20-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2223928)
Sim, not trying to steal your thunder, for $300-400, I'm almost 100% sure I can get them machined from billet for, still leaves the cap...
You said you wanted to buy the caps... I assume that you can only find them in steel, steel and aluminum don't mix :shakeshead: you almost cannot weld them together... (I say almost because it IS plausible, just a MAJOR PIA)
Window is a good idea, but for an order of 10-50, it'll increase cost $50-100/each (If this sounds absurd to you guys, I promise, it's not, it's very realistic, or if you think it IS too much, lets all come up with a way for it to be economically viable)

My goal is sub $300 which either depends how many people I can get on board with a 50% down, and/or figuring a less expensive, not cheaper, way out. My #1 goal isn't making money, it's more helping the forum while keeping jobs in America vs China.

That said, I am still looking into other techniques, one option may have to be a NON threaded cap, kind of like a push on cap.
May sound ghetto, but if it's done well, it should be gold

i dont mean steel man.... i found aluminum ones and i know you cant weld aluminum and steel i weld for a living..... ;)

if you can produce it cheaper than me :tup: all good man better for me and less stress also... like i said before im only making these tanks for my buddy in japan.... it just so happened a couple of guys were looking for it on the forum also.... so i thought id make the two meet... killing two birds with one stone

simota1 03-20-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2223937)
Welllllll... The breather is ONLY for the catch can (I don't mean to state the obvious)
Again, if we're dabbling with that, the price will be really high... And I don't think you would want to lower the capacity of your radiator fluid reservoir.

Also, since 70%~ of us have a CAI, there's already opened space to put oil catch cans there, so I don't think there is a reason to reinvent the wheel
(And I think those hoses are UGLY AS SIN) and they'll turn brown over time... Lol

and you NEED a breather for the coolant reservoir..... the catch can doesnt need a breather... the hoses can be replaced with black silicone hoses or red, blue ones what ever is your preference.... the catch can has four hoses (obviosly) so its entry... exit... entry.. exit...

the reason why i say you need a breather is the coolant rises and falls when you run your car if you plug that then the pressure has no place to go... the original UAM tanks had no breather hole.... after a couple were sold i noticed they were drilling out the caps.... :D if you run your system with no breather it will come out from somewhere else... i promise you that... it wont happen right away but it will eventually.... also if it wasnt needed why would every cars coolant reservoir have a breather hole....

Wiggins3377 03-20-2013 03:05 PM

Anyone have a bell to ring? Can you guys tap gloves and promise a clean fight?

... im sure you'll both produce great work. Looking forward to seeing results. I for one am looking for a combo tank, so whoever makes one thats the one i'll go with.


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