FS: Hotchkis Rear Sway Bar

spoolio · 04-16-2009, 10:14 PM

Just bought the full Hotchkis sway bar set but only need the front so I'm selling the rear sway bar. Figured half what I paid for the kit... so $185 shipped (within lower 48).

travisjb · 04-17-2009, 12:08 AM

Huh ? why just the front ?

shabarivas · 04-17-2009, 04:03 PM

he likes MAD understeer LOL

ChrisSlicks · 04-17-2009, 04:24 PM

SCCA stock class only allows you to replace your front sway bar.

They figure that you can't get much of an advantage replacing just the front sway as the bigger you make it the more understeer you get.

shabarivas · 04-17-2009, 04:26 PM

guess if you want your car to drive like a RSX

spoolio · 04-18-2009, 09:19 AM

no, no....SHE does not like MAD understeer

but yes, yes...it's for autox stock class reasons. believe me, i want the rear too. I'm countering the understeer a little with the race tires. we'll see how it turns out. might end up taking it out, who knows.

spoolio · 04-18-2009, 09:40 AM

btw...just to make it clear....

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas

he likes MAD understeer LOL

Not quite.

When you install a stiffer front sway onto a car like the 370Z, which has a torsen diff and not enough front camber, you accomplish two things:

1) The car leans less, so you get MORE grip from the front tires because the camber doesn't go positive as the car rolls over onto the rocker panels due to the added grip of race tires.

2) The stiffer bar transfers weight to the opposite rear tire (the inside one) when cornering. This prevents the inside tire from turning to smoke coming out of corners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

They figure that you can't get much of an advantage replacing just the front sway as the bigger you make it the more understeer you get.

This is not quite true...this SCCA rule came about many years ago when older cars were running in stock class and many of them tended to wear out the front sway bar bushings and end links. Factory parts were no longer available and the SCCA didn't want to destroy the class, so they allowed aftermarket parts. This is how front sway bars became free in stock class.

Capiche?

travisjb · 04-18-2009, 10:12 AM

Good explanations, thanks

If it turns out to be too stiff, you might want to try the stillen bars which are only about 30% stiffer than stock in the front if memory serves

spoolio · 04-18-2009, 02:29 PM

thanks! I just took it for a spin with the new front bar. Not bad....next to try it with race tires next weekend

04-16-2009, 10:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
spoolio Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: maryland Posts: 35 Drives: 370Z & turbo'd rx-8 Rep Power: 16	FS: Hotchkis Rear Sway Bar Just bought the full Hotchkis sway bar set but only need the front so I'm selling the rear sway bar. Figured half what I paid for the kit... so $185 shipped (within lower 48).

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04-17-2009, 12:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Huh ? why just the front ?

04-17-2009, 04:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	he likes MAD understeer LOL

04-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	SCCA stock class only allows you to replace your front sway bar. They figure that you can't get much of an advantage replacing just the front sway as the bigger you make it the more understeer you get.

04-17-2009, 04:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	guess if you want your car to drive like a RSX

04-18-2009, 09:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
spoolio Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: maryland Posts: 35 Drives: 370Z & turbo'd rx-8 Rep Power: 16	no, no....SHE does not like MAD understeer but yes, yes...it's for autox stock class reasons. believe me, i want the rear too. I'm countering the understeer a little with the race tires. we'll see how it turns out. might end up taking it out, who knows.

04-18-2009, 10:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Good explanations, thanks If it turns out to be too stiff, you might want to try the stillen bars which are only about 30% stiffer than stock in the front if memory serves

04-18-2009, 02:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
spoolio Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: maryland Posts: 35 Drives: 370Z & turbo'd rx-8 Rep Power: 16	thanks! I just took it for a spin with the new front bar. Not bad....next to try it with race tires next weekend