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Originally Posted by Zaggeron lol. No mass produced car produced in this century is an "investment" -- not unless you are willing to hold onto it for years and years.

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lol. No mass produced car produced in this century is an "investment" -- not unless you are willing to hold onto it for years and years.

I look at it this way. I want a new DD. I'm sick of 4 doors and FWD. I don't need another high-powered car like my Z -- which is my "weekend" car that I plan to keep for a while. What are my choices in the under 30K range.

To put it another way -- what are my choices in a brand new small RWD coupe under 30K

1. Mustang -- too big and too heavy
2. Genesis -- don't like the styling and it's too heavy
3. MX-5 -- I'd buy one if I didn't already have a convertible
4. ??

I don't buy used cars so a used Rx-8 is out -- though I would have bought one if they could stand he Texas heat and got a bit better mileage.

Not much else out there is there ...

Yes, if I didn't have my Z I wouldn't pick the BRZ over the Z, but given I already have a Z, what choices do I have in the class of car I want?

I like the look of the BRZ -- it's got the features I want -- leather, Nav, etc.
It's in my price range. If when mine comes in and I like how it drives and the dealer doesn't try and ream me, I'll buy it. I really couldn't give a crap if people think it's overpriced.
I disagree I have typically bought production cars and broke even after driving them for 2 years. It takes some skill but I have done it multiple times. I bought Mazdaspeed 6 gt for 23k and two years later sold it for $22k and bought a new Chevy crewCab truck for $19k and sold it for 17k two years later. Your not going to get close to that with BRZ unfortunately so you lose a big piece of your intial investment.

You have more choices than you think! Go make a deal on a BMW 135 or even 128 coupe. Way more car for the money!

I just don't think making car rear wheel drive is worth $10 k premium over cars using similar motor etc. the power of marketing is a wonderful thing! Makes people like me a ltttle richer separating those who can rationalize this purchase with their hard earned cash!
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I disagree I have typically bought production cars and broke even after driving them for 2 years. It takes some skill but I have done it multiple times. I bought Mazdaspeed 6 gt for 23k and two years later sold it for $22k and bought a new Chevy crewCab truck for $19k and sold it for 17k two years later. Your not going to get close to that with BRZ unfortunately so you lose a big piece of your intial investment.

You have more choices than you think! Go make a deal on a BMW 135 or even 128 coupe. Way more car for the money!

I just don't think making car rear wheel drive is worth $10 k premium over cars using similar motor etc. the power of marketing is a wonderful thing! Makes people like me a ltttle richer separating those who can rationalize this purchase with their hard earned cash!
I meant you'd never make your money back on a new car. Your example of losing only 2k on a new truck after 2 years is an exception not an ordinary case. Most of the time you lose that much after driving off the lot.

I can't buy used. I just think back to how I used to treat cars and I can't bring my self to trust anyone owning a car before me. I know ... not very reasonable, but what the hay.

I was actually looking at 135/128 first, but buying one new with the features I want is much more expensive than the BRZ -- and you don't get that much more with the 128 and the 135 is about 6k more.

The thing I really want is small and light. I remember my old '74 fiat spider I had in the early 90s. 1.8 liter, not very fast, but light and nimble and fun to toss around. For my everyday driver I don't want a powerful car. I just want a fun light car that has RWD dynamics. Keep tossing out options cause I'm open to any new car that fits my bill. Like I said, I have a certain style of car in mind and I'm willing to pay extra for it (up to a point), but I'm not seeing much in that class.

That's part of the reason I want the BRZ/FRS to be successful. I want these sorts of cars to be more available and the only way that will happen is if people buy them. So if I have to pay a bit more than I normally would for the same level of car, I just chalk that up to taking one for the enthusiast team. You're welcome
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