It would certainly make me think about it. It would be a very fun daily driver.

The rear valance looks very similar to another car I seen.....hummmmm!

yah, MSRP target of $25k was the initial prices i saw too a while back so it's good to hear. :)

25K is still a little too much unless it comes well equipped. I was always hoping for closer to 22K. I do like the car though and intial reviews all seem very positive. I just hope they don't take forever to release EPA mpg and official U.S. specs and price.

But no place is going to sell invoice on this right away, with how much hype and 'young' ones want this they will pay the price up front.
It is the stories I heard when the 8th gen Civic Si came out where people paid above MSRP....for a civic.

Well that's why you don't buy right away.

Though I did buy the 370 when it came out right away. Thankfully it was when financial markets were crashing so I got a good deal. ;)

Same here, I had one dealership tell me no one will sell a Z below MSRP, I started laughing the whole way out the door.
I can see these quickly dropping in value, especially since the specs are coming out 'below' what people wanted and many are not going to settle for an 'almost' replacement car.

Subaru BRZ pricing starts at $24,000

My Z had a sticker on it that said "$5,000 market adjustment."

The first number they came at me with was $43,000. This was for a 6MT T/S with no nav.

Needless to say I ended up paying a little more than $1,000 under invoice, which was a great deal back when they first came out.

The 5.0 was actually much more difficult to get a good deal on at the time, but I still didn't pay over invoice.

Wow, MC, thanks for that info. $24k MSRP for nav, premium sound, and sport cloth seats? That's great. I figure invoice would be closer to $22k. That's a good deal.

I'm going to have to check this car out -- it could be a very fun daily driver.

So does this mean we could get a gutted car, with AC, manual, LSD, better brakes for 22k maybe?

I can dig that pricing.

Toyota is said to be working on a supercharger that will increase power to.... 250.
We Hear: Toyota Working on Faster, Supercharged Version of GT 86 - WOT on Motor Trend

250hp at that weight is pretty good.

Rumors are all over the place with this car. Id rather have a 200hp car that weighs 2600 lbs than a 250hp car that weighs a tad less than 3000 lbs. Are official japanese curb weights out yet?

2700lbs and 250hp would be great. 300hp at that weight would be awesome.

I don't know how much power exactly I'd want from a car like this. I think 250ish is close to the sweet spot for a sub 2700-lb weight street car. Maybe pushing it on up to 300. I certainly wouldn't want to overpower the chassis, and would not want to have to be concerned with losing traction at WOT in low gears. Just something fun and very toss-able on back road drives, while still maintaining some efficiency and practicality for daily use.

250hp probably is the sweet spot for a this car, BUT think how much fun 300hp would be on track with r comps and the suspension setup to handle it??

Plus, this is 'merica, more hp is ALWAYS better.

:iagree: :icon17:

How long before we see a 1000 HP build? :roflpuke2:

I'm starting one next week.:stirthepot:

When you could fit a flat-6 engine from a posche and an oversize bonnet of the hood. :happydance:

/\ not digging that wing, BUT I suppose as long as it's functional and not just for looks...

block the front, with that wing on the back reminds me of the last gen celica = =

Yeah that wing looks ridiculous. Less is more for this car, IMO.

Yeah, I have always thought the rear looks exactly like an early 90's celica. The wing is the latest gen celica.

Looks like the typical Sti wing

Looks taller and arched more (should help with the flexing), with the celica ends.

Nothing really to do with the production model, but sick nonetheless.

only cooler!

:yum:

So the Mustang is fat piggy? :p

you left out an s:p


but yes:mad:

:roflpuke2:

:bowrofl:

:icon17:

haha. :D i like the smallness of the FRS. :tup:

I've been in all of those cars, and the Porsche at 174 inches, and I don't think the FT's rear seats are going to be usable.

Here's a hint that it might be going turbo after all :stirthepot:

Subaru confirms turbocharged BRZ engine, doesn't confirm turbocharged BRZ