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Jordo!

11-02-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1387060)

Yeah but the FRS comes in at 2600 lbs. I don't know how many people here have driven cars under 3,000 lbs before (probably not many), but 2,600 lbs feels A LOT different than 3600, 3300, or even 3200 lbs!!!!!

Yes it does. This car should handle like a go-kart.

But... I hope and pray they offer FI for it. I deeply miss having a lightweight, well handling tossable car, but I DON'T miss having a car that can't get out of it's own way.

Those power and torque figures are NOT impressive, not even on a four banger (recall the figures for the S2K), and certainly not with DI and premium fuel.

baldie

11-02-2011 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1387060)

Haha yeah, my sdub mr2 and spyder were both a blast to drive.

semtex

11-02-2011 07:47 AM

2 Attachment(s)

Scanned this in from the current issue of Car and Driver, which I just received last night:

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1320237940

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1320237940

Spikuh

11-02-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1387496)

Those power and torque figures are NOT impressive, not even on a four banger (recall the figures for the S2K), and certainly not with DI and premium fuel.

Or think back to the SR20DET in the Silvia line. ~200hp and ~200torque and ~250hp by the time you got to the s15 model.

Then there is the new MR16DDT engine with 188hp and 177torque...

Granted, these are FI engines and the FT engine is NA so not entirely apples to applese, but I expected better numbers. :(

m4a1mustang

11-02-2011 08:56 AM

If the Subaru verison only has 210-220 hp I will be thoroughly disappointed. But I'll wait patiently to see what the official specs are. It has the potential to be a really cool car.

Rui Z

11-02-2011 10:35 AM

Ugh. $28,000 base price and only 1 mpg better than our Z. I hope car and driver are wrong about those numbers.

GZ3	11-02-2011 12:56 PM

so what would please the masses here assuming the weight stays at or around 2600....250...300FI?

kenchan

11-02-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1387039)

Everyone said the Genesis 2.0t was going to sell like hot cakes: RWD, light weight (comparativly) RWD, turbo. Yet it really hasn't taken off like everyone though. I believe the FR-S will be the same. I mean at 20-25k for a base version you are looking at close to 30k for a optioned up model. For that type of money you can buy much better and faster cars. I know this car is supposed to be about handling but thats about the only thing it has going for it. The miata sells a lot because it's cheap and sporty looking, doesn't mean that it's acutally fast. When it comes to most car enthusaists, people want a car that is fast and corners well. For the price range they are talking I would look more at the Genesis V6, Mustang V6, WRX, etc. Time will tell what this car actually becomes and how well it does.

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1387726)

Ugh. $28,000 base price and only 1 mpg better than our Z. I hope car and driver are wrong about those numbers.

:iagree: the base needs to be like $22K to make any sense...especially a scion (or suby for that matter). :)

Lug	11-02-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1387926)

so what would please the masses here assuming the weight stays at or around 2600....250...300FI?

Dr. Evil voice on.................

1 Billion HP!

Rui Z

11-02-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1387926)

so what would please the masses here assuming the weight stays at or around 2600....250...300FI?

200 works for me, but I wish it had more torque (~200).

Skeeterbop

11-02-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1387726)

Ugh. $28,000 base price and only 1 mpg better than our Z. I hope car and driver are wrong about those numbers.

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Originally Posted by kenchan

the base needs to be like $22K to make any sense...especially a scion (or suby for that matter).

I agree with both of you. Even if the car is lighter by, lets say 500 pounds, it still doesn't make up for the 100+ hp difference. At 28k it is competing with other cars that will out perform it. But if it's cornering performance is equal to the Z and it's styling isn't f'ed up, I might try finding a used one once the Z is paid for.

280z/300zx

11-02-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1387926)

so what would please the masses here assuming the weight stays at or around 2600....250...300FI?

It depends. With a 2600 curb weight at a 20-22k base price I would say 220-230hp is adequate to be competitive. With a price of 25-28k which is more likely I think 250hp is the bare minimim. The car should also have FI for the simple fact that people like to mod cars and with a N/A 4 banger chances are this car won't really respond to mods all that well.

Lug	11-03-2011 08:47 AM

At 2700 lbs, it would need somewhere around 270 hp to match the Z in acceleration. My guess is that Subaru will introduce a turbo version a year or 2 after the initail car is sold with around a $5K bump.

m4a1mustang

11-03-2011 08:48 AM

I wonder if an LSX would fit. Won't be much of a weight penalty at all. :D

Isamu

11-03-2011 11:37 AM

lol at everyone modding this car already...

we shall see...

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