I'd LOL at a 5 second sonic because sonic. But you're right.

Nissan would throw a revised Nismo Juke at the Sonic.

However, at this rate, it looks like they'd throw a turbocharged Rogue at the Camaro and a twin-charged Murano convertible hybrid at the SS Sedan (the Maxima is stuck in the showroom with its "faux door sports car" badging everywhere including the innovative sun visor that tattoos the driver's forehead with "4DSC") and leave the GT-R to the Vette.

And for every sad Z driver on this forum, they'd reply to every single grievance with "but we make the GT-R".

but.....they do make the GT-R :yum:


actually when getting my tranny fluid changed a few weeks back the fiancée test drove the new 2016 murano and i'm not gonna lie it's a really great vehicle. new body lines are goo, interior is fantastic, and the ride was surprisingly good.

the down fall is the new front end style im not sure if im a fan which also scares me about the next Z. could be amazing or could be hideous......if they make one at all.

You get what you pay for!

In all seriousness I do kinda like the new Mustang and Camaro, but just for me personally contemplating buying an American (or more so a European) car gives me the heebie jeebies. The only possible exception would be the Corvette, but I have passed on that twice already. It may be irrational, and the Z hasn't been an exemplar of reliability and quality for me. Maybe I will go for the FT-1 (Supra) if Toyota ever decides to produce it.

With that being said I am looking at Chevy pickups right now, but I am nervous...

While I wait and how things have been going, my Z will probably end up costing me the same as low-end Porsche.

Nissan really does make a hell of a people-mover. I find the new Murano to be gorgeous. My wife has a 2015 Rogue and we both love the thing. Super practical, fits our stuff, and is amazing on gas.

Where Nissan gets me is where they try to push people-movers with stickers off as sports cars. Frustrates me.

yea the murano wasn't even on her list of cars she was interested in but we had about an hour to kill so took it out. now it's pretty much the front runner for her.

I don't mind them trying to push their people movers as sporty but I hate them for using a CVT on everything. I had no issues with my '08 Altima 3.5SE but hated how the cvt drove. That's my one and only CVT vehicle. I've also driven all the late models (rentals) and still don't like CVT. I love Nissan but will not buy another (excl Infiniti) if it's got a CVT.

You are just going through withdrawals because you sold your sports car. Happens to everyone. A Maxima will never be a sports car.

We drove every cross over under 45K and my wife fell for the Rogue. To be honest it's not as sporty or fun as the Audi was, but when she drives she's getting close to 36 MPG. That still blows my mind for a cross over.

Same here. The fiancee loved the audi the. Drove that new murano and fell in love

... huh?

The Z32 route is ideal. The Camaro advantage will be in standard features for the money

Latest look at 2017 ZL1 prototype, with better look at special hood – Camaro6 – 6th generation 2016 Camaro forums, news, reviews, and more.

They're already working on the SUPED UP series. Gotta love murica for not sleeping on performance.

that hood is a giant shaker hood. looks pretty good even though it's camo'd up lol

if it's that rumored TT V8 they supposedly sent out to be dyno tested and dropped 800HP on 9lbs of boost i'll take one now please. thank you.

:tiphat:



so I see a 6/4 piston caliper set-up
many coolers behind the grill I would assume tranny, maybe dff, oil, and possibly intercooler for the boosted set-up
hood is sexy, the baby wing is sexy, overall I dig it.

also if no one else caught it theres a sticker set on the right rear quarter that blends in that say "PWR 646" I assume this has the Z06 engine in it and will be the ZL1

EDIT: looked close it says PWR < 6.46 that could be power to weight? im now confusing myself lol

vid from the ring testing. sounds so sexy.

2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Spy Shots And Video

That Camaro suspension is taut like a mutha... Wow...
You basically don't need an aftermarket suspension. Lowering springs n alignment.