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MC 03-27-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 2756230)
Next one due out next year is getting 800 horses...and a face lift.


Its coming in 2016 as a 2017 model.. there is one more year of the R35

shadoquad 03-27-2014 04:38 PM

As folks here have said, this is a track car version of the Camaro. You pay more for the others, but you also get longer lasting tires, more driveability, AC, a better stereo, etc.

I think the Z28 is impressive as hell, but let's be real, it's a track toy. More practical than an Ariel Atom, but not as liveable as a GTR or 911.

I mean, I do believe the price for performance argument is a valid one, but this isn't a completely apples-to-apples comparison. The GT2/GT3 Porsches are the stripped down track versions of the 911.

But hey, I drive a RWD chevy with an LS7 engine, so I'm biased :icon17:

b15 03-27-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyan370 (Post 2756576)
But it's pretty awesome when the underdog, aka the cheapest car, wins. I'm just happy all the American car haters have nothing but excuses.

Likewise unfair comparisons like this give American car lovers false sense of superiority

H2O_Doc 03-27-2014 05:51 PM

Maybe they gave points for "car that looks best with your mullet." I've always though a mullet and Camaro go together like guns-n-beer

axmea? 03-27-2014 06:01 PM

I read this article today both at the newsstand and on my email from MT. It is boggling how they came up with it despite the numbers. Goes back to what is fresh and the value regardless of performance. Purist will defy and go with driving experience. Big deal if they put an LS motor on a cheap Merincan body. Tranny will sh!t out under 75k.I've had my fair share of American cars. They all stunk in the long run. As much as I'd like to put my money on US soil, I've yet to have a great long term experience. Still rooting fo Go 'merica someday but not on this one. MT is like any other publication is only informative, always biased, and never the ultimate authority.

TaylorRyan370 03-27-2014 06:25 PM

I've only owned American cars expect the Z and have never had a problem with them. I think the whole idea that a lot of people have in their minds about American cars isn't true anymore. They are just as competive as any other car nowadays. Look at the CTS-V for example.

Z_ealot 03-27-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TaylorRyan370 (Post 2756576)
But it's pretty awesome when the underdog, aka the cheapest car, wins. I'm just happy all the American car haters have nothing but excuses.

i for one don't hate american cars, i just tire of the good ol' boys saying every hateful thing under the sun whether the import wins or the domestic wins "such and such" comparisons cause in the end that is not what a true automotive enthusiast is and most domestic fan boys can't seem to accept the fact that the japanese do, in fact, produce performance cars that rival or even beat american cars. i'm not going to make excuses either, the camaro won the hot lap and i commend GM for taking the time to actually make the Camaro what it should have been all along and doing a bang up job of it, but the fact remains that the Z/28 is an all out track focused car and if you're really going to do an apples to apples comparison i think it would only be fair to compare it to the track focused versions of the cars they are comparing it to a.k.a. the nismo gt-r and the porsche gt3

axmea? 03-27-2014 09:17 PM

I'll be honest though. I wondered if an LS7 will fit the Z.

In addition, I must balance things out and say that this Z28 breaks the old notion that Merican cars only do well in straight line. I'll give GM that.

ZKraken22 03-27-2014 09:58 PM

Who should really be mad about this is the 911 turbo! it's new! at least this GTR is on it's way out the door. And Nissan should trash that so call "Track Edition" GTR.

This reminds me of the Boss 302 and how they said that was faster. then it ran on other tracks and got trashed. I call for a Rematch!

GTR beat ZR1 in more than 23 tracks. And i know this Z/28 isnt faster the the ZR1 or a Zo6 with the added The Z06 and the Z07 Performance Package Talk about bad review.

Shamu 03-30-2014 09:51 AM

Man that Z28 is bad a$$ ! Served GTR and 911 turbo their walking papers at price of a cayman! Wicked car. Thanks to Chevy for getting it right! A true drivers car. Can't wait to see the new Z06!

DEpointfive0 03-30-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89 (Post 2756128)
This is what gets me. Sure, the Camaro is faster, but what you rather have? A GTR/Porsche, or a $75k version of what the high school kid next door drives?

Just as bad as the $200k version of what my neighbor's mom has (Porch 911 base)

DEpointfive0 03-30-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2756674)
So...why not put the Z/28 up against the Corvette Stingray? And the Dodge Viper? Seems that's right where this comparison should go if they're going the GTR and 911 Turbo S route. Even up the tires and put ceramics on the GT-R, and I think you'd see the Z/28 slip back into its rightful place of third.

But like someone said, only track guys will be looking this direction. Everyone else that wants more than they need will go ZL1. More hp, less $ and get back to mouth-breathing.

And take the A/C and stereo and seats out. It will go back to third QUICK.

b15 03-30-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2760038)
Just as bad as the $200k version of what my neighbor's mom has (Porch 911 base)

Not at all. A 911 base is still an $80k car with a nice interior (and exterior if you like Porsche design. I don't though). It still has the Porsche characteristics and can still handle. A Camaro base can be had for what? $20k? Your choice of garbage interior or garbage exterior, Buick inspired handling and found on driveways of high school teenagers and rental car lots.

shadoquad 03-30-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2760047)
Not at all. A 911 base is still an $80k car with a nice interior (and exterior if you like Porsche design. I don't though). It still has the Porsche characteristics and can still handle. A Camaro base can be had for what? $20k? Your choice of garbage interior or garbage exterior, Buick inspired handling and found on driveways of high school teenagers and rental car lots.

Even at that, the argument is iffy. It's like refusing to buy an evo because it's a lancer. The z28 is a different animal from the base v6. They look similar, but they're entirely different in terms of performance.

b15 03-30-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2760059)
Even at that, the argument is iffy. It's like refusing to buy an evo because it's a lancer. The z28 is a different animal from the base v6. They look similar, but they're entirely different in terms of performance.

Agreed. But I the original comparison post was referring to perception. An $80k Carrera still has the Porsche panache.


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