45 HP power bump on the Cayman...

Cell · 09-27-2013, 03:49 PM

We Hear: Porsche Cayman, Boxster GTS Variants to Get Power Bump - Motor Trend WOT

I wonder if Nissan will still aim to market against the Cayman on the next generation of Zs.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-28-2013, 05:42 AM

If the Z goes FI... I expect the next gen Z to be about 350hp and 200lbbs lighter than the Porsche gts. But maybe the Nismo Z might match the gts in power? Nissan will always look at Porsche for the Z comp while also trying to stay ahead of price competitive Japanese brand coupes like the Frs and other possible upcoming coupes like the rx7 and supra coupe.

DLSTR · 09-28-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cell

We Hear: Porsche Cayman, Boxster GTS Variants to Get Power Bump - Motor Trend WOT

I wonder if Nissan will still aim to market against the Cayman on the next generation of Zs.

If true and they are probably being tested near me as it is( will start looking for them when Im in Zuffenhausen), why bother with the 911. The Cayman S is the best sportscar made here in Stuttgart-period! Balance, handling the whole package is just so good now...hmmmmm.

Akmcmahon · 09-28-2013, 12:07 PM

For the extra $30k it costs over the Z, you could add a heck of a lot more than 45hp. $70k is too much for that car imo. I think it's a great car, but that price tag kills it for me.

HKYStormFront · 09-28-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Akmcmahon

For the extra $30k it costs over the Z, you could add a heck of a lot more than 45hp. $70k is too much for that car imo. I think it's a great car, but that price tag kills it for me.

The GTS models are typically pretty low production and hold their value well. Most well kept low miles ones will become collectable in the future. I used to work at a Porsche dealership and the Cayenne GTS was by far the best flavor of that pepper. All the Turbo goodies without the way-too-much-for-road-use powertrain the turbo had. Also, you could get a very nice V8 with a 6 spd manual in an SUV. Good luck finding that anywhere else...

///PureSwank · 09-28-2013, 12:35 PM

If you want it to compete with it expect it to cost like it as well. If we do get at that point, your might as well go with a GTR.

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UNKNOWN_370 · 09-28-2013, 02:52 PM

The porsche Cayman competes more than most of the cars people try to t throw up against the Z.

HKYStormFront · 09-28-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank

If you want it to compete with it expect it to cost like it as well. If we do get at that point, your might as well go with a GTR.

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A used one, yes. A new one ($100k+), no. But you are talking about two completely different buyers of car.

bvl · 09-30-2013, 06:33 AM

Changing the HP of the car doesn't change the positioning in the market . The Z has been, and will continue to be, a more affordable sport car. You can get 80% (subjective but ball park) of the experience for a lower price then its peers.

Comparing a normal Z to say a Cayman S is a valid comparison even if list prices are a bit off the charts for zee German (and that's just the market: they can get it so they have very high profit margins). CPO is where it gets interesting...I know

The GTS will be a great track car, or a car inflate the confidence of men with wee willie syndrome, but other then that, I see it as a very strange change of pace for Porsche.

The Cayman has been a neutered platform so as not to infringe on the holy 911: why change that now?

- b

ZBro16 · 09-30-2013, 12:44 PM

Next Z is going to be FI inline 4 at roughly 2800lbs and estimated 320-340hp. Depending on how the car itself is packaged, it could still compete performance-wise. Also doesn't rule out multiple powertrain options, but it will be interesting to see how it fleshes out.

HKYStormFront · 09-30-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZBro16

Next Z is going to be FI inline 4 at roughly 2800lbs and estimated 320-340hp. Depending on how the car itself is packaged, it could still compete performance-wise. Also doesn't rule out multiple powertrain options, but it will be interesting to see how it fleshes out.

and where did you get this info?

ZBro16 · 10-01-2013, 08:51 AM

Can't tell you that yet

Just wait for Tokyo.

HKYStormFront · 10-01-2013, 04:40 PM

hmmm... that would be a radical departure from what i've heard is coming. time will tell...

Tazicon · 10-01-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

A used one, yes. A new one ($100k+), no. But you are talking about two completely different buyers of car.

I own both a 2011 370z sport and a 2010 Cayman S.

HKYStormFront · 10-01-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon

I own both a 2011 370z sport and a 2010 Cayman S.

Know anyone else that does?

09-27-2013, 03:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cell A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,449 Drives: A Garbage Truck Rep Power: 21	45 HP power bump on the Cayman... We Hear: Porsche Cayman, Boxster GTS Variants to Get Power Bump - Motor Trend WOT I wonder if Nissan will still aim to market against the Cayman on the next generation of Zs.

09-28-2013, 05:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	If the Z goes FI... I expect the next gen Z to be about 350hp and 200lbbs lighter than the Porsche gts. But maybe the Nismo Z might match the gts in power? Nissan will always look at Porsche for the Z comp while also trying to stay ahead of price competitive Japanese brand coupes like the Frs and other possible upcoming coupes like the rx7 and supra coupe. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

09-28-2013, 12:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Akmcmahon Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 159 Drives: 13 370Z Mag Black M6 Rep Power: 13	For the extra $30k it costs over the Z, you could add a heck of a lot more than 45hp. $70k is too much for that car imo. I think it's a great car, but that price tag kills it for me. UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

09-28-2013, 12:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
///PureSwank Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 954 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 14	If you want it to compete with it expect it to cost like it as well. If we do get at that point, your might as well go with a GTR. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 __________________

09-28-2013, 02:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	The porsche Cayman competes more than most of the cars people try to t throw up against the Z. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

09-30-2013, 06:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
bvl Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: PA Posts: 362 Drives: MB Roadster (sold) Rep Power: 13	Changing the HP of the car doesn't change the positioning in the market . The Z has been, and will continue to be, a more affordable sport car. You can get 80% (subjective but ball park) of the experience for a lower price then its peers. Comparing a normal Z to say a Cayman S is a valid comparison even if list prices are a bit off the charts for zee German (and that's just the market: they can get it so they have very high profit margins). CPO is where it gets interesting...I know The GTS will be a great track car, or a car inflate the confidence of men with wee willie syndrome, but other then that, I see it as a very strange change of pace for Porsche. The Cayman has been a neutered platform so as not to infringe on the holy 911: why change that now? - b UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

09-30-2013, 12:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
ZBro16 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 370 Drives: A Z. Rep Power: 13	Next Z is going to be FI inline 4 at roughly 2800lbs and estimated 320-340hp. Depending on how the car itself is packaged, it could still compete performance-wise. Also doesn't rule out multiple powertrain options, but it will be interesting to see how it fleshes out.

10-01-2013, 08:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
ZBro16 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 370 Drives: A Z. Rep Power: 13	Can't tell you that yet Just wait for Tokyo.

10-01-2013, 04:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	hmmm... that would be a radical departure from what i've heard is coming. time will tell... __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

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