We Hear: Porsche Cayman, Boxster GTS Variants to Get Power Bump - Motor Trend WOT I wonder if Nissan will still aim to market against the Cayman on the next
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09-27-2013, 03:49 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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45 HP power bump on the Cayman...
We Hear: Porsche Cayman, Boxster GTS Variants to Get Power Bump - Motor Trend WOT
I wonder if Nissan will still aim to market against the Cayman on the next generation of Zs. |
09-28-2013, 05:42 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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If the Z goes FI... I expect the next gen Z to be about 350hp and 200lbbs lighter than the Porsche gts. But maybe the Nismo Z might match the gts in power? Nissan will always look at Porsche for the Z comp while also trying to stay ahead of price competitive Japanese brand coupes like the Frs and other possible upcoming coupes like the rx7 and supra coupe.
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For the extra $30k it costs over the Z, you could add a heck of a lot more than 45hp. $70k is too much for that car imo. I think it's a great car, but that price tag kills it for me.
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09-28-2013, 12:29 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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The GTS models are typically pretty low production and hold their value well. Most well kept low miles ones will become collectable in the future. I used to work at a Porsche dealership and the Cayenne GTS was by far the best flavor of that pepper. All the Turbo goodies without the way-too-much-for-road-use powertrain the turbo had. Also, you could get a very nice V8 with a 6 spd manual in an SUV. Good luck finding that anywhere else...
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If you want it to compete with it expect it to cost like it as well. If we do get at that point, your might as well go with a GTR.
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The porsche Cayman competes more than most of the cars people try to t throw up against the Z.
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A used one, yes. A new one ($100k+), no. But you are talking about two completely different buyers of car.
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Changing the HP of the car doesn't change the positioning in the market . The Z has been, and will continue to be, a more affordable sport car. You can get 80% (subjective but ball park) of the experience for a lower price then its peers.
Comparing a normal Z to say a Cayman S is a valid comparison even if list prices are a bit off the charts for zee German (and that's just the market: they can get it so they have very high profit margins). CPO is where it gets interesting...I know The GTS will be a great track car, or a car inflate the confidence of men with wee willie syndrome, but other then that, I see it as a very strange change of pace for Porsche. The Cayman has been a neutered platform so as not to infringe on the holy 911: why change that now? - b |
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Next Z is going to be FI inline 4 at roughly 2800lbs and estimated 320-340hp. Depending on how the car itself is packaged, it could still compete performance-wise. Also doesn't rule out multiple powertrain options, but it will be interesting to see how it fleshes out.
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hmmm... that would be a radical departure from what i've heard is coming. time will tell...
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