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2014 Jaguar F-Type - really?

This car is badass, you need to hear it in person before rushing to judgment. It is on a completely different level than the 370z, it's not even close in

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Old 07-17-2013, 11:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This car is badass, you need to hear it in person before rushing to judgment.

It is on a completely different level than the 370z, it's not even close in terms of refinement, luxury, or brand recognition so it's not even a fair comparison
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd take the Jag over the 911. I don't think I could ever by a base 911 or 911 S, I'd have to go GT3/GT2.

That Jag is gorgeous! Their design team is incredible.
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I'd take the Jag over the 911. I don't think I could ever by a base 911 or 911 S, I'd have to go GT3/GT2.

That Jag is gorgeous! Their design team is incredible.
Man the things I'd do for a GT2..
I like the built in diffuser on the V8 version. And the orange color is just amazing!
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Man the things I'd do for a GT2.
Same here. My shame would fade, but I'd still have the GT2.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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340 HP....base is 70 K?
Really Jaguar?

ill stick with my 33 K base 370z......PLUS yours looks like mine...copy cats....
Try to think this one through. The Jag:

1. SC v6 has a far broader torque band then the NA Z: the engine is a beast
2. Classic Jag styling, subjective but its a looker.
3. Much better interior and customization available
4. Target market: Cayman/Boxster or low end 911

Copy cats...that's pun-ny Most folks copy Jag styling given they are classics. The Z will remain a sports car and is a fantastic package for what it is.

The F type is a bit porky IMHO, so to me its leans more GT then Sports car when comparing it to a Boxster. Kudos for Jaguar for bringing this sucker to market. With the exception of the transmission choices, I could see myself actually lusting after one for once.

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Well, the z's target when they designed the 370z was the Cayman...
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Well, the z's target when they designed the 370z was the Cayman...
Swing and a miss

The price points are so vastly different that I am not faulting Nissan: they brought a very specific car to market segment devoid of competition, though not a large market segment.

The F and the P cars are priced similarly (though I would expect the Jag to come out 10-15% less expensive, in the ball park)

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Swing and a miss

The price points are so vastly different that I am not faulting Nissan: they brought a very specific car to market segment devoid of competition, though not a large market segment.

The F and the P cars are priced similarly (though I would expect the Jag to come out 10-15% less expensive, in the ball park)

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I meant performance wise
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I meant performance wise
Right...and if they used say a Cayman S as a benchmark the missed.
A base car will be at a pretty big HP disadvantage but I would bet a good steak that most people after driving both cars for a week would take the underpowered car as it provides a better driving experience.

The Z is:

1. Porkier then Kardashian calves
2. Lacks steering feel (its good, not great)
3. Ridiculously sensitive on/off TCS for a sports car

You are not going to get around the fact that a big honking 6 is hanging over the front axle vs a mid-engine car: tough to fight the physics there.

I seem to be in the minority on this site, but I wanted the Z to be a return to its roots, lighter, fun to toss, and absolute power not a requirement as its a street car. Heck I had hoped the Z33 was a NA I-6, 250 HP, 3000 lbs. Boy was I waaay of base on that. If you are going to charge 35-45K for it, then it should have better interior for its class. Missed that too.

Perhaps its hard for Nissan to do with the amount of platform sharing that may be mandated by corporate management. Driving the Z, I feel like it is a good GT car that wants to be a sports car. Driving the 987, I feel like I am driving a sports car that just wants to be pushed harder.

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Right...and if they used say a Cayman S as a benchmark the missed.
A base car will be at a pretty big HP disadvantage but I would bet a good steak that most people after driving both cars for a week would take the underpowered car as it provides a better driving experience.

The Z is:

1. Porkier then Kardashian calves
2. Lacks steering feel (its good, not great)
3. Ridiculously sensitive on/off TCS for a sports car

You are not going to get around the fact that a big honking 6 is hanging over the front axle vs a mid-engine car: tough to fight the physics there.

I seem to be in the minority on this site, but I wanted the Z to be a return to its roots, lighter, fun to toss, and absolute power not a requirement as its a street car. Heck I had hoped the Z33 was a NA I-6, 250 HP, 3000 lbs. Boy was I waaay of base on that. If you are going to charge 35-45K for it, then it should have better interior for its class. Missed that too.

Perhaps its hard for Nissan to do with the amount of platform sharing that may be mandated by corporate management. Driving the Z, I feel like it is a good GT car that wants to be a sports car. Driving the 987, I feel like I am driving a sports car that just wants to be pushed harder.

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I m a life long porsche owner. Have owned and driven several 986/987 Boxsters and Caymans. Raced a Boxster too. Cayman S to me is a very boring car. It makes terrible low end power as well. Way to expensive for what it is in my opinion.

With a few simple mods 370z is just as fast if not faster than a a cayman S on track. In my opinion I enjoy way 370 handles better than a Cayman. My Nismo is stockish form ate up Cayman S on track. Now it blows them away. My 370z is closer to GT3 performance now at less than a 1/3 rd the cost.

And cayman s even out of box requires some mods to make them decent track car so youre going to spend money over base price to get the car to work properly on track. I'd much rather spend mod money on a $30k car than on $70k car.
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Well, the z's target when they designed the 370z was the Cayman...
And the Z beat the Cayman in performance, but lost in overall scores. I know one thing, the Z will be ridiculously cheaper to maintain, and the value of the Jaguar will drop off a cliff when it is driven off the lot.

OK. Make that two things.
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I checked it out last night after I saw an ad on the golf channel. It's a beautiful car. The engineering, as far as the transmission knowing when to downshift in a curve, looks really cool. Too much $$ for me. If I had the cash I'd definitely be taking a look. It's not always about horsepower. They do have a V8 with over 400hp. That's more than enough for just about anyone. Even with the 4000 lb.+ weight.

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ill stick with my 33 K base 370z......PLUS yours looks like mine...copy cats....
If you think a Jag F-Type looks anything like a 370Z, you're delusional.
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I am disappointed by the size of the f. When I heard ramblings that this was going into production, I'd hoped it would be smaller, a proper brit roadster. I parked next to one a few weeks ago, and it dwarfed my Corvette. It is massive.

I also have a personal bias against jags because they don't offer a manual option and are very expensive, but their design is beautiful
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