FWD BRZ Fighter? Thoughts for Nissan Lovers!

[UNKNOWN_370]

Ok guys... This is the comment that has sparked a lot of negative thinking when it comes to Nissan's future cars. Understandably the thought of three different Z's... One econo, front wheel drive version, BRZ fighter. One RWD turbo 4 RWD which would be the standard car. And supposedly, possibly a limited edition V6 are some of the crazy rumors that have sparked.
While in deep thought about this. I realize, that the Altima coupe hasn't been spoken for... Will it be cancelled? Or is the so called BRZ fighting FWD Z really an Altima coupe, that we have totally Not considered in our talks???

Nissan info has been lost in translation with little defining guidance from our R&D/corporate guys. The only thing we really know is the next Z will be smaller, lighter and there will be a RWD version.

Now, I decided to dissect the rumors and pretend that the BRZ fighter won't be a Z. It will be a front wheel drive car. And possibly be an Altima or a FWD Silvia something or other. Who knows???

FWD, here in our country is the call-sign for "Fake Sports Car!" Why would Nissan do this??? Then while playing GT-5 I was racing my Renault Megane RS. In simulation this is one hot ride. Handles sick for a FWD... Given the marriage between Renault-Nissan...This prompted me to go on You tube and see exactly what this car does through some kind of auto review...

I was shocked to see what I found. This car, may not do donuts or it may NOT be easy to stick the back out. But if this car will weigh in the same range as a BRZ, with this engine in the guise of an Altima/Silvia? This may be the car to end GTi/Mazda3 and even newcomer Focus ST worship. If the Altima coupe came as the Renault Megane? I think, the BRZ would really have a FWD fighter from Nissan. LOOK.

Fifth Gear Web TV - Megane Renaultsport 250 Cup - YouTube

Fifth Gear Renault Sport Megane 265 Trophy VS Nissan 370Z - YouTube

evo Driven: Renault Megane RS 265 Trophy review - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=W7gLhmqq3_4



Being that Nissan and Renault are married... I think having this car with Nissan badges or at least use of its motor/chassis/tranny would benefit us greatly here, to increase Nissan performance. Not only for us to destroy ever other FWD car out there. But to put serious pressure on RWD to perform this well.
Nissan, if this will be one of the tricks up your sleeve? I will be impressed!

But this would mean, the RWD 370z needs to be even greater. Lets destroy the comp.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Adding another vid of Renault Megane (Nissan sister) vs Ford Focus RS.

Superchips Renaultsport Megane vs Ford Focus RS - Auto Express - YouTube

Opel vs Megane vs Focus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PErKLbB4NW4

[UNKNOWN_370]

Coming back to this thread. It seems like Nissan/infiniti divorcing platforms was some type of lie they led us to believe. Reason being. Infiniti is coming out with a performance compact FWD coupe. It seems that will be a Renault influenced car an it seems like my thoughts have more validity than I thought.

Infiniti Compact Luxury Car Coming in 2016 | AutoGuide.com News

Which brings us back to an FWD version of the Z/maybe altima coupe? For a supposed divorce in platforms rumors still tend to run parallel??? I think in 2015/16, we will be getting a pair of Megane type vehicles through Nissan/Infiniti guys.

[6MT]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Adding another vid of Renault Megane (Nissan sister) vs Ford Focus RS.

Superchips Renaultsport Megane vs Ford Focus RS - Auto Express - YouTube

Opel vs Megane vs Focus

Ford Focus ST vs Renaultsport Megane vs Opel Astra VXR - Auto Express - YouTube

I drove a Megan in England. Pretty nice. Comparable to a GTI.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by 6MT

I drove a Megan in England. Pretty nice. Comparable to a GTI.

Yeah, I'd like to get my hands on one for a test drive.

[tower74]

Nissan here is an idea....Take the GTR shrink it down and throw it into the Z. It's a proven car. Why not? That would kill every other ride on the road with an AWD Z, launch control, twin turbo..etc..etc...

[Z_ealot]

Originally Posted by tower74

Nissan here is an idea....Take the GTR shrink it down and throw it into the Z. It's a proven car. Why not? That would kill every other ride on the road with an AWD Z, launch control, twin turbo..etc..etc...

so then why would they need the gt-r anymore?

[tower74]

Originally Posted by Z_ealot

so then why would they need the gt-r anymore?

So why do they need the Mustang GT 500. Why not dump it for the mustang v6....same thing here. Different version for different price ranges and different styles.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by tower74

Nissan here is an idea....Take the GTR shrink it down and throw it into the Z. It's a proven car. Why not? That would kill every other ride on the road with an AWD Z, launch control, twin turbo..etc..etc...

At minimum, the price of the Z would triple.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by 6MT

I drove a Megan in England. Pretty nice. Comparable to a GTI.

Kewl, the reviews say that this thing makes GTi's feel boring and the GTi can't corner anywhere near a megane though. If this is true? I'm pretty excited.

[Lug]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

At minimum, the price of the Z would triple.

Take the 3.8L design, factory line it instead of hand build it. Throw on a pair of cheap K03 turbos, reduce the HP to something like 400. This is how to save the Z at just a small price bump.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by Lug

Take the 3.8L design, factory line it instead of hand build it. Throw on a pair of cheap K03 turbos, reduce the HP to something like 400. This is how to save the Z at just a small price bump.

We can get 400hp out of a 3.0 Turbo and save 50 lbs doing it. 400hp is not much to put it in such a big motor. The 3.8 in a Z for 400hp is overkill. We're not hyundai.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

At minimum, the price of the Z would triple.

Yeah, no kidding.

Oh, you want a pig of an engine with a hog of a driveline in the body of a ballerina? Sure, that won't cost much...

Seriously, there is no way Nissan is pumping that tech. into a 33-3400# car without seriously upping cost. Only American companies seem to know how to make a sub 3400# 600+hp vehicle that can handle. Everyone else is busy ******* around with AWD and heavy V6's and such. Of them, only Porsche is succeeding in the weight thing, and a GT2-RS will set you back 1/4mil for the privilege of competing with a corvette on the track, lmao

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

We can get 400hp out of a 3.0 Turbo and save 50 lbs doing it. 400hp is not much to put it in such a big motor. The 3.8 in a Z for 400hp is overkill. We're not hyundai.

My 370Z is probably making around 350hp with CBE/smooth bellows. Why the HELL! would you want to add turbos for 50bhp!?

I agree with UNK. That's stupid, and that motor is very expensive, and we already have something just as "good" as the outlined solution if you don't mind modding a bit. Or Nissan could throw some headers on it and a re-tune and re-do some VVT timing and all and be right at about 380bhp I would bet.

[Lug]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

We can get 400hp out of a 3.0 Turbo and save 50 lbs doing it. 400hp is not much to put it in such a big motor. The 3.8 in a Z for 400hp is overkill. We're not hyundai.

400 out of a 3.8 of a general assembly line with turbos lets you dumb down the built, parts cost, complexity and lets you build a motor far enough away from it's fail point to make it reliable enough for mass production a car. Pushing more out of a 3.0 liter will make it less reliable. The 3.8 is block already developed and you won't need things like the spray in sleeves and full forged components that cost more. The GT-R's motor's cost comes from expensive parts, required tighter tolerances and hand-building, things you can dumb down at lower power levels. Nissan saves costs on uitlizing a block design that's already been in use and tested beyond anything they will need.