The Infiniti Q60

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-14-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ZBro16

Scroll up. You said in gigantic bold letters that Infiniti never used a CVT in anything. I presented the JX35. Don't try and spin it like you meant something else. You were proven wrong.

If you're selling anything, I might be interested in trading you my Mazdaspeed3 for your prop plane, but I get the idea that maybe you can't drive stick.

How is this relevant to the argument again? Also - study up on product lineups a bit dude. The standard 3 series is a 328 - which is not paired against the G37, it's paired against the G25. The 335 is paired against the G37, and having driven both, the 335 is the better car. But my opinion doesn't matter, the sales figures do, and neither G is outselling its BMW counterpart.

FYI - I never said I thought the Z had a CVT. I said I didn't realize JATCO was the manufacturer for the 7AT in the Z. Their name gets thrown around a lot where I work because of the abundant transmission failures in CVT powered Nissans across the board. Nissan had to add a warranty to the CVT to retain customers and not scare off potential new ones. Sure they've improved it, but they'll still never be an option in my book. I will never buy another car with one in it.

Also - Downshift Rev Matching and Synchro Rev Match are two different things - SRM works on up and downshift and was NOT invented on any automatic transmission. And you're off by 200 milliseconds. Or did you upgrade yours to a dual-clutch?

BTW - you missed the JX35 on all those test drives you've taken. Your local Infiniti dealer misses you.

Agreed, but Nissan needs to step it up because their competition definitely has.

Go home. You're drunk.

Let's condense this BS down to brass tax. I'm not turnoin' shyt around.

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"There has never been a Z with a CVT and their wont be, There has never BEEN an infinti with a CVT either. Unless there's a passenger car for utlility I don't see that happening.*
I've have had borth Altima 2.5 and 2.5 in CVT guise. 3.5 the Altima was too powerful to call it boring, even with a CVT. DRM simulation on the 3.5 also helped. BUT when we are talking 2.5? Yes, the altima was completely dul."

I didn't even think about the JX. I forgot it existed. But bringing up the Jx35 as a symbol of Infiniti failing in the performance sector. Is like me bringing up the Nissan Murano or your favorite company, The Ford edge... What does, A have to do with B.

My TRUE point is the Q50 may not be a popular design right now, But I highly doubt it will not perform well. You claimed early on which started this discussion that they'll probably throw CVT in the Q50. I mentioned the hybrid is being tested with DCT.

You're saying it's a possiblity that the hybrid will come out. I'm saying Infiniti is advertising it as coming out.

You're saying the BMW 3 series has more performance. As it stands right now that's not the case unless you're talking about the 1M and M3.

I don't want your Mazda. I hate torque steer...

Yes, I know how to drive manual. I learned on a ae86 and owned a FD. I have an experience with my FD mods that most can only dream of actually having done. Thanks to mechanic/race car driving family back home that worked on my FD back in the 90's. But thanks for your concern on my knowledge of manual.

So basically, I talked about infiniti not remembering the JX
You talked about jatco not knowing about the 7AT origin.

BS over.

bigsix · 03-14-2013, 12:47 PM

I think the Q50 is a very handsome design. A good idea to keep the 3.7 liter displacement.

I would love to drive one and compare it to the new Lexus IS, then the Teutonic trio (c class, 3 series, A4).
I really liked driving the prev. gen. IS250 AWD, maybe more so than even the 328xi.
It's kind\a funny-ironic how the chief engineer of the new IS, Mr. Furuyama, talks about 'measuring' and 'focusing' on FUN TO DRIVE as key to building the new car... when "fun to drive" is not quantifiable nor measurable, really. I guess that kind of mindset is reflected in the cars Lexus builds. 5 5 .

bigsix · 03-14-2013, 12:49 PM

I'd definitely give the Cadillac ATS a try at ownership. Why not support our own domestic car industry, design, and engineering, ya kno ? ? . '

bigsix · 03-14-2013, 12:51 PM

Probably go for the fun, fuel-efficient turbo-4 , too. With the manual tranny. That ATS chassis is great- - - the lighter engine would exploit it while keeping weight off the front axle/wheels ya

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-14-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsix

I'd definitely give the Cadillac ATS a try at ownership. Why not support our own domestic car industry, design, and engineering, ya kno ? ? . '

The ATS is doing big things. If and when the coupe & ATS-V comes out? It's going to be rough time for the competition. The camaro being built on the alpha platform has me thinking the next gen camaro will reinvigorate chevy to new heights.

An updated 3.7 to me is not a terrible idea. I just feel that if that's the route we take? We should be putting most of our R&D in a 400lb weight reduction and fine tuning the 3.7 to be even more aggressive than it already is.

bigsix · 03-14-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The ATS is doing big things. If and when the coupe & ATS-V comes out? It's going to be rough time for the competition. The camaro being built on the alpha platform has me thinking the next gen camaro will reinvigorate chevy to new heights.

An updated 3.7 to me is not a terrible idea. I just feel that if that's the route we take? We should be putting most of our R&D in a 400lb weight reduction and fine tuning the 3.7 to be even more aggressive than it already is.

I've been progressively impressed w/ each American car company as their quality and creativity has gotten better and better. It takes Balls to challenge the Germans in the segments that they pretty m,uch own.

Unfortunately I'm not in the financial position to buy a ~$40k car, but I would like to choose American: The Cadillac ATS 2.0T w/ manual tranny

I've heard the manual is somewhat of a 'dog', but I'm sure the combo of manual w/ turbo-4 would be So Fun 55

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-15-2013, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsix

I've been progressively impressed w/ each American car company as their quality and creativity has gotten better and better. It takes Balls to challenge the Germans in the segments that they pretty m,uch own.

Unfortunately I'm not in the financial position to buy a ~$40k car, but I would like to choose American: The Cadillac ATS 2.0T w/ manual tranny

I've heard the manual is somewhat of a 'dog', but I'm sure the combo of manual w/ turbo-4 would be So Fun 55

An ATS 2.0 is about $40,000. But maybe year end they might throw a $5,000 incentive or something? Maybe? American car companies have stepped up. Chevy ford and the Chrysler Trio as well.
My favorite american car progressions have been.
Cadillac ATS
Jeep Grand cherokee
Chevy Corvette
Chevy Camaro
Chrysler 300
Ford Focus ST
Chevy Sonic

I think the above line-up has shown serious progression and philosophy changes in the American market.

ZBro16 · 03-18-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Let's condense this BS down to brass tax. I'm not turnoin' shyt around.

lol. Edit that a couple more times. You almost got every word spelled correctly.

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QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS POST

You don't need to quote and reword the stuff you already posted - it's already there for people to read. Which, unless you edit your stuff and spin it around, speaks for itself.

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I didn't even think about the JX. I forgot it existed. But bringing up the Jx35 as a symbol of Infiniti failing in the performance sector. Is like me bringing up the Nissan Murano or your favorite company, The Ford edge... What does, A have to do with B.

Go google the word "quantifiers". Then go back and reread your original post. You're reaching too far - I hope you stretched beforehand. Wouldn't want you to pull anything.

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You're saying the BMW 3 series has more performance. As it stands right now that's not the case unless you're talking about the 1M and M3.

PLEASE show me some hard numbers. PLEASE. Find me a comparison article from Edmunds, Motor Trend, Road and Track. PLEASE.

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I don't want your Mazda. I hate torque steer...

My condolences. I hear vaginitis is really tough to deal with on a daily basis.

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Yes, I know how to drive manual. I learned on a ae86 and owned a FD. I have an experience with my FD mods that most can only dream of actually having done. Thanks to mechanic/race car driving family back home that worked on my FD back in the 90's. But thanks for your concern on my knowledge of manual.

MAN I was so excited when Initial D made it to Netflix Instant.

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So basically, I talked about infiniti not remembering the JX
You talked about jatco not knowing about the 7AT origin.

BS over.

Your reading comprehension is ABYSMAL. Feel free to google that word too.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-19-2013, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ZBro16

lol. Edit that a couple more times. You almost got every word spelled correctly.

You don't need to quote and reword the stuff you already posted - it's already there for people to read. Which, unless you edit your stuff and spin it around, speaks for itself.

Go google the word "quantifiers". Then go back and reread your original post. You're reaching too far - I hope you stretched beforehand. Wouldn't want you to pull anything.

PLEASE show me some hard numbers. PLEASE. Find me a comparison article from Edmunds, Motor Trend, Road and Track. PLEASE.

My condolences. I hear vaginitis is really tough to deal with on a daily basis.

MAN I was so excited when Initial D made it to Netflix Instant.

Your reading comprehension is ABYSMAL. Feel free to google that word too.

You should get into politics because you say so much without saying a Gotdamn thing...

Here's your limp mode bimmer.

2008 Infiniti G37 vs 2007 BMW 335i - Head to Head - Motor Trend

G37 Vs. 335i - Infiniti and BMW Face Off At The Track! Pt. 1 - YouTube

G37 Vs. 335i - Infiniti and BMW Face Off At The Track! Pt. 2 - YouTube

Here your links... As always i provide proof while a-holes just talk shyt. You have so much to say and NOTHING TO PROVE YOUR DEBATES.

In this C&D article the BMW328i won, but the G37s sedan destroyed the BMW in almost all track proven tests. BMW won for quality. Our debate here is if infiniti makes a less performing car than BMW. Well that didn't happen here. The G37 cost was equal to the 328 as well. Of course, C&D shows bimmer bias when bimmer loses in performance, but BMW won for gotta have a german car factor... Classic Catr and driver BS.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...7-sport-page-4

You can find the other two yourself.

Lastly, you can debate this topic in the right thread.

BMW 335i VS. INFINITI G37S

I'm done with you man. You're a smart guy. So smart you say dumb shyt. You can keep posting, but you will be talkng to yourself . You got your links now... eat em. Good day.

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03-14-2013, 12:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigsix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,227 Drives: Honda City/Mazda 2 Rep Power: 20	I think the Q50 is a very handsome design. A good idea to keep the 3.7 liter displacement. I would love to drive one and compare it to the new Lexus IS, then the Teutonic trio (c class, 3 series, A4). I really liked driving the prev. gen. IS250 AWD, maybe more so than even the 328xi. It's kind\a funny-ironic how the chief engineer of the new IS, Mr. Furuyama, talks about 'measuring' and 'focusing' on FUN TO DRIVE as key to building the new car... when "fun to drive" is not quantifiable nor measurable, really. I guess that kind of mindset is reflected in the cars Lexus builds. 5 5 .

03-14-2013, 12:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigsix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,227 Drives: Honda City/Mazda 2 Rep Power: 20	I'd definitely give the Cadillac ATS a try at ownership. Why not support our own domestic car industry, design, and engineering, ya kno ? ? . '

03-14-2013, 12:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigsix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,227 Drives: Honda City/Mazda 2 Rep Power: 20	Probably go for the fun, fuel-efficient turbo-4 , too. With the manual tranny. That ATS chassis is great- - - the lighter engine would exploit it while keeping weight off the front axle/wheels ya