Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2184224)

I think it's great news and shows Nissan actually implementing the whole concept instead of an afterthought. They don't invest this much into a project for minor body work to existing models. Hopefully they follow the AMG and M divisions into producing cars worth mentioning. The Juke and Z, although bear the Nismo name, seem like a start, not an endgame. Don't forget, both aren't exactly new models. If they are designing the next gen Z, it's perfect timing for the new division to get its mojo working on premium high performance models.

Also, I thought they did bring out limited run track versions of the GTR...and when did the GTR become a car that wasn't track ready?

Originally Posted by MC (Post 2184245)

the current track edition offers some very subtle differences from the regular GTR. It has a 22 lbs (33lb difference from premium) weight savings with a special suspension special seats and brake cooling ducts.

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2184224)

I think it's great news and shows Nissan actually implementing the whole concept instead of an afterthought. They don't invest this much into a project for minor body work to existing models. Hopefully they follow the AMG and M divisions into producing cars worth mentioning. The Juke and Z, although bear the Nismo name, seem like a start, not an endgame. Don't forget, both aren't exactly new models. If they are designing the next gen Z, it's perfect timing for the new division to get its mojo working on premium high performance models.

Also, I thought they did bring out limited run track versions of the GTR...and when did the GTR become a car that wasn't track ready?

Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 2184312)

MC are you talking about the track pak? i think he is talking about the Nismo GT3 car that is not street legal

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2182994)

When i first bought my 11 Z (my second Z34) I had written Nissan corp a long letter about a lack of product support from Nismo products. I explained to them how a Nismo exhaust/intake/suspension is something that is not advertised, pushed advised or given as an aftermarket accessory through dealerships.
I told them there is way more aftermarket support from Ford and Dodge with Ford racing and Mopar. I explained that GM has no real performance division but still pushes companies like Hennessey etc right from the Dealership. I gave TRD as an example of a car company, that has pretty much destroyed it's racing heritage and builds sub-par sports cars still has respectable aftermarket support. And other examples.

I received a automated reply saying thank u blah blahblah. Nsmo improvements were the BIGGEST part of my letter. Nissan is going to have to make some corvette like sacrifices to make this next Z a hit. The Next gen Nismo can't be the automobile equivalent of a Boob-job.

I must say though, the 2014 nismo is gorgeous imho but our cars need more than appearance packages. I still think the 09-12 look is still as hot looking as it was in 09. The 13 refresh did nothing to improve the Z as a sports car and it's upsetting. Very upsetting. I really hope this New Nismo, isn't just a marketing scheme or JUST a research center. I hope we see some real performance upgrades and a huge increase in AFTERMARKET service from Nissan.

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2184034)

If they want Nismo's to sell as a premium over a standard car, especially a sports car, it needs to be measurably better. With the Z, 18bhp is laughable when it's 100lbs heavier than a base one. Tires and suspension need to be better too. It can only make par with a SP model on braking, cornering and acceleration. Even the figure 8 times or slalom aren't any better. A base sport Z is the poor mans Nismo because it gives 95% of what the Nismo does for $6,000 less. Make it worth it's premium.

I don't mind other sporting or offroad vehicles in the Nismo lineup, but the Nismo Juke is abysmal. 10hp bump and the AWD still has a CVT... Give it 40 more and a 6mt.

Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 2184542)

Nothing new for us in the announcement. Start saving for a GT-R.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2184589)

My Z06 experience kindof changed how I view "supercars". I have no use for a GT-R (not that it isn't a sick car, I just don't have an application for it. I wouldn't snub one for free or whatever, so lets not go there, but since I don't track my stuff, I just can't put it to use, sorry.) To me, it's a status-icon only, and I don't care about status or reputation beyond the professional. I have found that the 370Z has just about the right amount of performance for me. Would I turn down 50-75hp more? Nah, but it's not necessary. What would I like? Less weight. Better suspension. Better distribution. More traction (although the 370Z is VERY! well balanced for power/traction, as it sits, IMO, when compared to cars like the mustang, challenger, camaro, etc.)

In short, I want a driver's car with decent creature comforts. It's time for a NAV system design update, time for more upscale materials in the interior (polymer developments, etc. make this possible over time without increasing cost), time to fix the weight distribution, time to improve rebound control, maybe an optional MRC type suspension like GM and all the other high-end manufacturers have gone to on their sports cars. GM owns suspension development. Nissan has piggy-backed on Ford for help with their GT-R engine, they need to hit GM up for some suspension tips.