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Originally Posted by theDreamer When I read those articles what I am seeing is the author writing his own opinion on the next gen Z and then assumes that this

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Old 02-21-2013, 11:39 AM   #16 (permalink)
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When I read those articles what I am seeing is the author writing his own opinion on the next gen Z and then assumes that this new car is the next Z. When really Nissan is just saying they are working/finishing a new lightweight performance car.
I noticed that too. But, a lot of times, those opinions are based on "Tech-Hints" Nissan drops on the reporters. then they translate to the best of their ability.

Maybe Nissan does this to get a feel of public opinion? Maybe the reporter is just trying to create car buzz??? I don't know. But i can only go by what reporters say and what I factually know and combine the two to make a prediction.

Honestly. I CAN'T predict whats coming next and it's driving me crazy... lol what I do know, i've been highly disappointed with the weak azz refresh. A waste of money.

I do know that the unchanged since 2011 kia optima is getting more praise than the ALL NEW Nissan Altima. The ALL new sentra is not getting much kudo's. The new Versa is not even spoken of. The new pathfinder is a fvckin' minivan now. the leaf is the best in tech breakthrough's. The maxima is bloated and outdated. And then the Cube is...............................A cube?!

The Juke is the next respectable car after the Z. The juke is being updated twice as fast as the Z. I'm just wanting a positive something about the next gen Z. Nissan seems to be going downhill in appealing design on other cars.
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. Nissan seems to be going downhill in appealing design on other cars.
But... CVT and zero gravity seats, brah.
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I have also read that the actual successor to the current Z will focus on losing weight rather than gaining power to achieve better performance numbers.
I wish they would do both...
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This sucks!! I thought this thread was gonna be about the next Z. I dont care what Hyundai wants to do. The car is ugly in my opionion... well the 2013 version. Nissan has history and has earned it's strips. Will the Gencoupe be around for 50 years. i personally dont think so. Hyundai is doing a lot of things right, "right now" But you wanna see a consistant trend of promise from them. earn my respect if you want my money. Until then Hyundai has and always will be a after thought to me. It's kinda like the Atlanta felcons. they had the best record in the NFC but you just dont trust them come play off time. The Gencoupe looks better then the Z on paper but just does not get the job done (the Gencoupe is actually targeting the Z) which to me is a fail i dont care if it's the first sports car ppl are still spending money on the car.
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If Hyundai goes through with either a V8 or TT V6, it's going to be a priced close to $47k....That's roughly the premium you pay for the Genesis V8 Sedan over the V6 Sedan. That's a tough pill to swallow, especially when the Mustang's & Z are due for a re-design. That's also close to the new Corvette Stingray's territory. That Hyundai V8 can't compare to the 6.2-liter LT1. Hyundai has to go with a turbo'd V6 and keep it below $40k to be successful. Truthfully, it doesn't really matter what they stuff under the hood, the Gen Coupe needs a better overall design.
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I think once hyundai works their korean magic, I think the top of the line gen coupe would be no more than 40k. Anything more than that and they are pricing themselves out of the market. Maybe they would lose the 2.0T altogether to bump it upmarket a bit.
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This sucks!! I thought this thread was gonna be about the next Z. I dont care what Hyundai wants to do. The car is ugly in my opionion... well the 2013 version. Nissan has history and has earned it's strips. Will the Gencoupe be around for 50 years. i personally dont think so. Hyundai is doing a lot of things right, "right now" But you wanna see a consistant trend of promise from them. earn my respect if you want my money. Until then Hyundai has and always will be a after thought to me. It's kinda like the Atlanta felcons. they had the best record in the NFC but you just dont trust them come play off time. The Gencoupe looks better then the Z on paper but just does not get the job done (the Gencoupe is actually targeting the Z) which to me is a fail i dont care if it's the first sports car ppl are still spending money on the car.
1. If you don't know who John Krafcik is vs Carl Ghosen? you shouldn't even be speaking about which cars have heritage. Go on wiki and learn the heritage you're talking about.
2.The gencoupe has NEVER targeted the Z from a commercial standpoint. It has targeted G37 and mustang directly. 3 series indirectly. The closest we"ve ever been as targets is the gencoupe owners try to tune there cars to be as fast as ours through intake, exhaust and tune.
3. You're in the other vehicles section. Why would Z news be here??? I hope you're not going troll on here cuz you will feel it in the end??? Just a warning.

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But... CVT and zero gravity seats, brah.
You don't know what you're missing with Zero Gravity seats!!! lol
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Let me see porky 3700 lb v8 genesis or a 2700 to 2800 lb turbo 4 Z. I now which I would buy!

Hyundai is so boring I could scream! Wonder if they are considering any aluminum suspension pieces this next Gen? They are definitely keeping pace with 2005 Mustang however!
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1. If you don't know who John Krafcik is vs Carl Ghosen? you shouldn't even be speaking about which cars have heritage. Go on wiki and learn the heritage you're talking about.
2.The gencoupe has NEVER targeted the Z from a commercial standpoint. It has targeted G37 and mustang directly. 3 series indirectly. The closest we"ve ever been as targets is the gencoupe owners try to tune there cars to be as fast as ours through intake, exhaust and tune.
3. You're in the other vehicles section. Why would Z news be here??? I hope you're not going troll on here cuz you will feel it in the end??? Just a warning.
1. I know who Carl Ghosen is and no i dont know john krafcik. Yes I did think it was someone in nissan in the higher up's who was simply throwing us a bone at a interview. So what. I can speak about what the hell i wanna speak about who are you to tell me what i should and shouldnt speak about? I'm sure a lot of people on this forum dont know who John Krafcik is, get a life that's pathic to pick a fight with me because i dont know who John Krafcik is. That does not take away my knowledge of cars.

2. A Magazine/ website have mentioned the Gencoupe in the same breath as the Z as a possible contender when the Gencoupe was gettin the extra HP. thats obviously something you missed Mr know it all. And no im not gonna go find the page and sentence.

3. I hit new posts like i always do and this was on the top. so no i didnt specifically go to the "other vehicles section" so thats why.

This guy is seriously threatening me on the computer? wow no im sorry i will never feel it in the end. Dont act like a girl because i dont respect the Gencoupe. Then you wanna pull the troll card like im suppose to care. I'm on here givng my opinion like everyone else. Weirdo
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1. I know who Carl Ghosen is and no i dont know john krafcik. Yes I did think it was someone in nissan in the higher up's who was simply throwing us a bone at a interview. So what. I can speak about what the hell i wanna speak about who are you to tell me what i should and shouldnt speak about? I'm sure a lot of people on this forum dont know who John Krafcik is, get a life that's pathic to pick a fight with me because i dont know who John Krafcik is. That does not take away my knowledge of cars.

2. A Magazine/ website have mentioned the Gencoupe in the same breath as the Z as a possible contender when the Gencoupe was gettin the extra HP. thats obviously something you missed Mr know it all. And no im not gonna go find the page and sentence.

3. I hit new posts like i always do and this was on the top. so no i didnt specifically go to the "other vehicles section" so thats why.

This guy is seriously threatening me on the computer? wow no im sorry i will never feel it in the end. Dont act like a girl because i dont respect the Gencoupe. Then you wanna pull the troll card like im suppose to care. I'm on here givng my opinion like everyone else. Weirdo
1. If you're in the "Other Vehicle" forum what makes you think its Nissan news??????????????????????????????????????? Really???????????
You're knowledge of cars and you spewing out the word heritage don't go hand in hand. And all im saying is don't troll. You started off in a troll like way. Just letting you know trolling wont be tolerated. You can speak freely as long as it's not ignorant personal bias.

2. A reviewer may be comparing but hyundai's market research & sales department is who states who they compete against. Not the shmuck who wrote your favorite article

3. You didn't know you were in the "Other vehicles" section? Your fault, not mine. Next time know where you're going and answer accordingly.

YOU NOT RESPECTING the gencoupe is your issue. Here in my thread. WE RESPECT ALL SPORTS CARS at least in the way we publicly write about them. I don't need people from gencoupe forum coming in here to tell us how douchy and elitist we are. We just have reasons why we don't like them. All posts should be at least respectful.
You think it doesn't have enough heritage for you is enough for us to get the message. I don't want this to be a bashing thread. You don't like it? You can't come up with an educated response or reason why you don't like a vehicle? Keep it to yourself!! All im saying is. Bring your car knowledge. Not your ignorant insults with no point but elitism and bias.

Lastly, no one is threatening anything. We been able to avoid trolling here for a long time. I don't want the trend to restart. Your style of writing incites senseless troll posts.


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Let me see porky 3700 lb v8 genesis or a 2700 to 2800 lb turbo 4 Z. I now which I would buy!

Hyundai is so boring I could scream! Wonder if they are considering any aluminum suspension pieces this next Gen? They are definitely keeping pace with 2005 Mustang however!
They're doing much better than 2005 mustang. But i agree that the steel iron suspension parts are probably what kill the current gen coupe as well as the transmissions. the 2013 is kinda ugly too but..

2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track vs 2013 Ford Mustang V6 Performance Package - YouTube

As it stands right now I would rather choose a Z BUT. Hyundai did say they would focus on weight reduction on the next gen car as well in a previous article... If they go with the proper suspension, better sport pkg wheels and a few chassis & interior tweaks. they could be looking at a 200lb drop. which means they might be able to get away with a bigger motor and a 30-80lb weight reduction from the current car?

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I had a student that I instructed at The Drivers Edge that had a new Gen Coupe 2.0T. It did not feel anything near 274hp and the handling was terrible. It blew up the trans before the end of the weekend, which I was thankful for as I just wanted out of that POS.
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Here is how people usually think, you only need a few people to say "certain car brand sucks" and it will spread like wild fire. This is pretty much the case for hyundais, a lot of bad reputations, rumors or not.. That is why people will always have that first impression.

Look at this with a more open mind, no doubt that hyundais have improved over the years, but people will always be like "yes i know they are improving, but are they the same level as such and such car brands?"
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