Its terribly sad if you ask me. Mitsubishi had the first Turbocharged ecu tunable successful sports car. The 1982 Mitsubishi Starion was an affordable sports car marvel. The Starion went from RWD to FWD/AWD in the mitsubishi eclipse in 1990 but was a highly respectable sports car till 1999.
If Mitsu would go back to the 90's formula of sports car making, they will instantly become leaders in the tuner segment. The Evo x, while its a great performing car. Has certain traits that limits the consumer buy-ability of this car. The new eclipse has no capability whatsoever and is basically a snazzy grocery getter. Mitsu fell off and it doesn't have to be this way. They know what it takes to make a great performance platform. They,re just not making any real effort to do so.

No they didn't. The Civic Si and CRZ are Performance marvels. :roflpuke2:

CRZ... what a waste. That would have been a cool car if they put a K series in it but it's the sport-hybrid nonsense.

Civic Si... I liked them up until the latest refresh.

where do you live though? here in socal, prius owners average 35-38mpg, same with camry hybrid owners(asked a few owners myself and i remember reading a news article about it a few years back) because of all the hills san diego has

dont get me wrong, those hybrids are amazing for city driving but depending on where you live and work here, you can be doing more highway driving then city driving(which is why i go off average mpg instead of paper or just city/highway drivers)

agreed, the CRZ was a failure to be what honda wanted it to be, it doesnt compare to the CRX at all
the civic si however, i feel those are always going to be the riceboys first choice when buying cars, heck honda saved them some $$$ by slapping vtec stickers all over the thing, if the SI was clean like the regular civic, i wouldnt hate it as much(i just hate the civic in general) but honda just had to slap iVTEC stickers on it

....looks at Speed3, looks at Focus ST...keeps mouth shut





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I like the Civic for what it is. I had an '06 sedan as a practical car. I wouldn't mind having an si sedan in that body style... but only without all the boy racer graphics and body treatments.

Your friends with the Priuses should get them checked out... My best friend who has a prius BEATS that car and drives faster than I do around town and he averages 40-45MPG, when he slows down to take his mom to and from the hospital usually he gets right around 50... That SOB...

On the freeway he gets about 42-45

(Just asked for his numbers, and he has a 2007 with 132k miles)

The Evo X is awesome, not gonna lie, I TRIED to buy one of those before the 370, but no where had one and the least modified one was modified to high hell... So it was a no go from me...

If Mitsubishi kicks the bucket I don't think I'd care... Nice knowing you and all, I liked the 3000GT, but feel free to GTFO

In spite of what some people think about the Evo. If we lost it? The sports car market would become so much less competitive and we'd start seeing crappier sports cars as a whole. The evo is one of the most important sports cars out there just because at $38k you can have one of the most advanced AWD systems as well as the most advanced DCT transmission in the price range, Add in the Brembo pkg, recaro's etc... This car is the wildcard price to feature competitor to many different types of sports cars. It sets a performance bar that hasn't been met in the price range in spite of its shytty interior.

Agree, but they sure do have great racing programs.

I live in the hills of New England and I drive it like a normal car. The only way a normal car can touch the hybrid's fuel mileage is on the highway at a very high speed. The faster you go in a hybrid, the less efficient they are. At 75mph cruise, it gets 42-44mpg no matter what you do. Also there are over three generators of hybrid and they are different types depending on year, you can't just assume all are the same. The new Camry Hybrid is a completely different system than the previous generators, it's like 10-20% more fuel efficient. Also not all hybrids are slow. Porsche and VW built performance hybrid powertrains. Lexus has hybrids over 300HP.

Respectable to who? They sold a lot of them, but they were basically Chrysler Sebring with a better powertrain. They were like the Mustangs from Japan, oh wait, they weren't built in Japan, heck they weren't even sold in Japan.

You lost me here? The evo was sold in Japan.

WTF are you talking about????

Yeah he was fine until that last paragraph, he doesn't know wtf he's saying lol

Mitsubishi eclipse. one of the most overrated car of all time

Not for the time it wasn't. And I was talking about the Starions that were built in Nyogi and Aichi Japan. @ $19k the eclipse gsx (which is the one to get) was a lot of car for the money and highly tunable.

Your comments are about 9 years ahead from the starions.