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Lug 11-09-2012 03:01 PM

Ford Focus ST review @ 1000 miles
 
Yipee!

:D

nepali 11-09-2012 03:53 PM

:wtf2: Huh? What???

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 2008391)
Yipee!

:D


m4a1mustang 11-09-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nepali (Post 2008499)
:wtf2: Huh? What???

He bought a Focus ST. His 1,000 mile review is "it's fun!"

I agree. My fiancée has one and its a hella fun hatch. :tup::driving:

shadoquad 11-09-2012 03:55 PM

He's enjoying his new ST

I am enjoying my new ST...I :D

Sibze 11-09-2012 04:39 PM

I'm enjoying my new STD

What what

bullitt5897 11-09-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 2008566)
I'm enjoying my new STD

What what "In tha BUTT!"


Fixed :tiphat:

m4a1mustang 11-09-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 2008941)
Fixed :tiphat:

Now I will have that song stuck in my head. :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Iceagetlc 11-10-2012 03:49 AM

SCT Tunes New ST - 253whp, 323wtq @2400 RPM - Focus Fanatics

This car makes insane torque. Light hatch, FWD, gobs of torque. It's a highway roll monster. I'd love to see one against a 370z. I'm sure youtube will have tons of "focus st vs..." videos soon.

m4a1mustang 11-10-2012 05:18 AM

We are waiting for some more companies to finish their development before we settle on parts for hers. She wants intake, cbe, and tune at the least. Don't know if we'll do a downpipe or not yet.

Torrie from Unleashed Tuning has his development car up to 313/35x right now but I don't remember all he's done to get there.

Iceagetlc 11-10-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2009174)
We are waiting for some more companies to finish their development before we settle on parts for hers. She wants intake, cbe, and tune at the least. Don't know if we'll do a downpipe or not yet.

Torrie from Unleashed Tuning has his development car up to 313/35x right now but I don't remember all he's done to get there.

Downpipe is like the holy grail mod to turbo cars, you know you want it.

Lug 11-10-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2009174)
We are waiting for some more companies to finish their development before we settle on parts for hers. She wants intake, cbe, and tune at the least. Don't know if we'll do a downpipe or not yet.

Torrie from Unleashed Tuning has his development car up to 313/35x right now but I don't remember all he's done to get there.

Basically 30 shot of nitrous plus tune. He doesn't think you will see the north side of 300 w/o a turbo upgrade. The good news? The price of a turbo upgrade on a car that is already turboed is almost insignificant. :D

lemon-fresh 11-10-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceagetlc (Post 2009154)
SCT Tunes New ST - 253whp, 323wtq @2400 RPM - Focus Fanatics

This car makes insane torque. Light hatch, FWD, gobs of torque. It's a highway roll monster. I'd love to see one against a 370z. I'm sure youtube will have tons of "focus st vs..." videos soon.

Z will likely lose, ford owners rejoice!

binary0x01 11-10-2012 05:23 PM

Z might lose to 60 meby 70... I think by 80+ it will come out ahead. Not to mention the experience will be much better in the 370Z :)

m4a1mustang 11-10-2012 06:26 PM

I don't even know why we'd make that comparison. I'd see how it stacks up against MS3, GTI, WRX, etc.

Lug 11-10-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2009703)
I don't even know why we'd make that comparison. I'd see how it stacks up against MS3, GTI, WRX, etc.

From COBB's online dyno library..
https://www.box.com/shared/static/si...8uhqxbsyib.jpg

Lug 11-10-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2009597)
Z will likely lose, ford owners rejoice!

I don't think so! :D

m4a1mustang 11-10-2012 07:35 PM

I want to see what kind of numbers it will put down with intake, CBE, and tune.

And then with a catted downpipe and with an off road downpipe.

Still waiting on Cobb to finish their development. Steeda has a CAI in development but no word on when it will be ready for sale.

Red__Zed 11-10-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 2009744)

That's a ridiculous looking tq curve. Doesn't look to have the breathing issues up top either.

Lug 11-10-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2009770)
That's a ridiculous looking tq curve. Doesn't look to have the breathing issues up top either.

It kinda does. People running it at the strip are finding that early shifting (before 6000 rpm) is yielding better results than redlining it.

Red__Zed 11-10-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 2009789)
It kinda does. People running it at the strip are finding that early shifting (before 6000 rpm) is yielding better results than redlining it.

6K is reasonable though. The MS3 runs out of air like 1200 rpms before redline.


Any idea why they only tracked to 6K on the Focus? Redline is 6.5K right?

m4a1mustang 11-10-2012 08:11 PM

Yep redline is 6500.

Here is Unleashed Tuning's stock vs. tune graph:

http://www.fastpartsnetwork.com/images/fst1.jpg

Red__Zed 11-10-2012 08:17 PM

tune looks great. looks like the 6K valley goes away too :tup:

m4a1mustang 11-10-2012 08:24 PM

Yep. Just waiting on Cobb so we have someone to compare it to!

Red__Zed 11-10-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2009821)
Yep. Just waiting on Cobb so we have someone to compare it to!

should be fun:tup:


if you're like me you'll never pick a tune :roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 11-10-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2009824)
should be fun:tup:


if you're like me you'll never pick a tune :roflpuke2:

Good thing I don't own the car. She wants to get this one right now but I am telling her to be patient and see if Cobb has better results. I know they are working on tuning solutions as well as an intake and exhaust.

So far our favorite exhaust for the car is the Magnaflow CBE. Best sound of everything out right now... it's sort of a funky sounding engine so it requires a good bit of sound tuning. Can't just fab something up in a muffler shop and sound good.

Lug 11-14-2012 06:12 PM

I was just looking at all the factory tours of all the super sports cars on the front page and I thought of this enlightening video...


Need For Speed Most Wanted Live Action TV Ad - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca-lV3LRxEY

shadoquad 11-14-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2009703)
I don't even know why we'd make that comparison. I'd see how it stacks up against MS3, GTI, WRX, etc.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:


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jk jk :tup:

Japanjay 11-14-2012 06:57 PM

A huge difference in regards to Torque over HP usually indicates a gutless motor without the turbo. Torque gets you to the race, HP wins it.

m4a1mustang 11-14-2012 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 2016560)
A huge difference in regards to Torque over HP usually indicates a gutless motor without the turbo. Torque gets you to the race, HP wins it.

K03 baby snail. Needs moar escargot.

gleonard 04-05-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2009597)
Z will likely lose, ford owners rejoice!

I can assure you from first hand experience that you're wrong...:tiphat:

UNKNOWN_370 04-06-2013 09:25 AM

I sat in the ST... Nissan could take a lesson in seating for the Z from the ST. While I find the Z seats to be very good. The ST has true sports car seats that are befitting of way more serious sports cars than the Focus. Yet most serious sports cars fail where the ST succeeds.

Interesting.

Lug 04-06-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleonard (Post 2253414)
I can assure you from first hand experience that you're wrong...:tiphat:

Gets pretty close to a 350Z (from a roll only), no way it's gonna touch a 370Z unless tuned.

SS_Firehawk 04-06-2013 07:14 PM

Looks like the turbo is running out of breath. That much tq down low is kinda useless except for gas mileage. Definitely has promise though.

m4a1mustang 04-06-2013 09:15 PM

It's a fun car. I just hope Ferodo offers DS2500 pads for it soon.

nuTinmuch 04-08-2013 10:58 AM

I've actually been considering moving to a Focus ST in the coming months.

I'm going to have to be commuting a lot more for work, that and I'll likely be moving into a new place/getting married. All of that makes me sort of want to get something a little more practical. I was dead-set on the WRX, but I really do like the interior of the Focus ST.

I might wait until this fall, just to see if any more details about the 2015 WRX come out.

m4a1mustang 04-08-2013 11:09 AM

Fiancée went YOLO today and ordered the Cobb Stage 2 kit (AP tuner, intake, and FMIC) and CP-E catback and catted downpipe (so we'll run the Stage 3 tune). She is already SCT tuned now but decided to jump to Cobb for better R&D and support.

Quaife has an LSD out for it now too.

ZBro16 04-08-2013 02:21 PM

Is the Ford direct injected? Didn't know if it utilized a cam-driven fuel pump or not. That's the only thing holding me back from dumping some money on Cobb's website for my MS3 (but I should keep that money for Z money... I can't help but be curious about playing with my Mazda some).

CDFP is a fairly expensive mod (labor and part - I don't feel like messing with a fuel pump, but I haven't done research on the actual process yet.) and as it stands it would be a warranty issue for me I think. There is a fuel starvation problem under boost with the MS3 if you do even a stage 1 tune - cobb recommends running safe mode on all their tunes unless you have upgraded your CDFP.

m4a1mustang 04-08-2013 02:34 PM

Yeah it's DI.

ZBro16 04-09-2013 08:47 AM

They might just use a worthwhile CDFP on it then. The Mazda's is weaksauce (part of the reason it falls on its face on the top end - the other is air intake restriction). Unless the focus's is too new and they haven't seen any vulnerabilities with it yet, should rock pretty hard on a Cobb Stage 2.

I'll read up on it as I'm just wildly curious if nothing else. I like the ST a lot.

ZBro16 04-09-2013 08:52 AM

AH - so after a quick search, the Ford does used a high pressure cam driven fuel pump similar to the Mazda. The Mazda uses one from Hitachi and the Ford uses a Bosch.

From what a guy on an EcoBoost forum said, the ST's CDFP is set at its maximum threshold just like the Mazda's is. These fuel pumps are set to push out around 1600psi under full boost (pretty nuts), and modification and tuning will require more, which puts the ST in the same modding situation as the Mazda.

I'd look into what's available for aftermarket. Sounds like with even a stage 1 tune on an intake you'll run into some moderate fuel starvation problems.


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