Snooty BMW owners

murphman

i think owning BMW made him that way

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brucelidat

it's like someone i know who has a TT g37 and had a r8 rev on him. he beat the r8 (this was not me and I as well as the forum does not condone this), but it's sort of the same, let me compare my car to a car that costs significantly less to make myself feel better = insecurity

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370Z Purist

When the first post of that BMW thread talked about the sound of the door thud when it closed, it reminded me of miata doors. Is that meme still alive?

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Pauly

Audi ftw

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Pauly

wish my iphone let me use the "stir the pot" emoticon

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dpriceslc

Here's my opinion on this subject and I think I have a pretty good perspective from which to comment as I sold a 2007 335i Coupe for the 2012 Nissan 370z Touring w/Sport & Nav Package that I'm driving now. BMW makes amazing cars, most of which are some combination of high performance and luxury. Yes, you pay more for the BMW brand but I don't think you pay that much more when you consider that all maintenance is included for the first 5 years or 50,000 miles (something you do not get with Nissan). The majority of the cars that Nissan makes are a combination of value and reliability with the GT-R and 370Z being the the exceptions. Now don't get me wrong, I think the 370Z is a great car and very value priced for what you get but it's not an amazing car. Also, let me leave no doubt in anyone's mind, a stock 335 or 135 will beat a stock 370z every single time. The 335 and 135's are fast, wicked fast (0-60 times are around 4.8 secs). M Series cars are even faster. It all comes down to what you want to spend. You're going to pay more for a BMW, but you're going to get a higher performing car and you're going to pay less for the Z and still get a good performer.

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mhcoss

Stock 335 or 135 is right in line with the Z. Not really faster at all.......

shadoquad

Agreed. You can chip them and get decent gains. An M3 or 1M will dust a Z stock, but the *35i series isn't smoking a Z stock for stock. They're nicer cars, imo, but not "blow off your doors" faster.

mhcoss

I don't think they are really any faster at all. They are definitely nice cars. They are luxury sedans though.

Here are the stats I found on the 35i that are fairly revealing.
2012 335I
Curb weight: 3591 lb
Power: 300 hp @ 5800 rpm
Torque: 300 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm
PRICE AS TESTED: $55,745
2012 BMW 335i Sedan Test – Review – Car and Driver



2012 370z sport/touring
SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM 332 @ 7000
SAE Net Torque @ RPM 270 @ 5200
Base Curb Weight 3291 lbs
$37760 370Z 2dr Cpe Manual Touring
2012 Nissan Z Nissan 370Z coupe Car Buying Guide at CARandDRIVER.com- 2012 Nissan


So there you have it. 370z lighter and has more HP. BMW edges it on torque but also red lines at a much lower RPM. So just viewing these numbers I find it hard to believe the 335 would be any faster. Maybe off the line due to its peak torque coming at a lower rpm..


EDIT: Definitly agree the m3 ,m1 are faster. M3 by a lot, m1 not too much. normal bmers though are not

Cmike2780

Stock for stock, they aren't much faster...also that "free" maintenance is far from free. You're paying for it along with the badge. A dealer can throw in a "free" maintenance plan when you're negotiating the price of the Z for instance. It's like with anything companies throw in for free.

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ianthegreat

The difference is you get the free 3 year 50k warranty regardless of your negotiating skills. I negotiated from invoice and paid 45k; however, I didn't want all the extra's like navi, cooled/heated seats, etc - just sports package, which I'm sure reduced the overall price by several thousand.

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shadoquad

The free warranty doesn't cover everything, though. And if BMW decides that your problem isn't under warranty, you have to pay sky high repair costs.

ianthegreat

What doesn't it cover? I guess that's a better question. Hell, they way I hold my steering wheel caused the decal to rub off a little and they replaced that around 30k. I've never been denied anything under 3 year/50k.

I think many people mistake the BMW warranty like many other American drive train warranties or other imports. This waranty is all inclusive, including brake pads, oil changes, everything. Really is a big positive.

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shadoquad

Well, my dad's Z4 had a dent in the oil pan caused by daily driving. Nothing out of the ordinary. They tried to charge him 2k for it, still well under warranty. He had to fight tooth and nail with the dealership over that.

Once you're through warranty, everything costs and arm and a leg. Not worth owning past that.

DJ-of-E

holy crap, no wonder BMW acceleration is scarily smooth. My friend driving a 335i and didn't realize until a couple seconds later we're already approaching 80mpg.

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