Snooty BMW owners

Pauly

wish my iphone let me use the "stir the pot" emoticon

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Gun Metallic 2012 370 Z 7AT

dpriceslc

Here's my opinion on this subject and I think I have a pretty good perspective from which to comment as I sold a 2007 335i Coupe for the 2012 Nissan 370z Touring w/Sport & Nav Package that I'm driving now. BMW makes amazing cars, most of which are some combination of high performance and luxury. Yes, you pay more for the BMW brand but I don't think you pay that much more when you consider that all maintenance is included for the first 5 years or 50,000 miles (something you do not get with Nissan). The majority of the cars that Nissan makes are a combination of value and reliability with the GT-R and 370Z being the the exceptions. Now don't get me wrong, I think the 370Z is a great car and very value priced for what you get but it's not an amazing car. Also, let me leave no doubt in anyone's mind, a stock 335 or 135 will beat a stock 370z every single time. The 335 and 135's are fast, wicked fast (0-60 times are around 4.8 secs). M Series cars are even faster. It all comes down to what you want to spend. You're going to pay more for a BMW, but you're going to get a higher performing car and you're going to pay less for the Z and still get a good performer.

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2012 Magnetic Black 370Z MT Touring w/Sport and Navigation Package, Persimmon Leather, ClearBra, FI TDX Cat Back Exhaust System w/18" Res & SS Mufflers

mhcoss

Stock 335 or 135 is right in line with the Z. Not really faster at all.......

shadoquad

Agreed. You can chip them and get decent gains. An M3 or 1M will dust a Z stock, but the *35i series isn't smoking a Z stock for stock. They're nicer cars, imo, but not "blow off your doors" faster.

mhcoss

I don't think they are really any faster at all. They are definitely nice cars. They are luxury sedans though.

Here are the stats I found on the 35i that are fairly revealing.
2012 335I
Curb weight: 3591 lb
Power: 300 hp @ 5800 rpm
Torque: 300 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm
PRICE AS TESTED: $55,745
2012 BMW 335i Sedan Test – Review – Car and Driver



2012 370z sport/touring
SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM 332 @ 7000
SAE Net Torque @ RPM 270 @ 5200
Base Curb Weight 3291 lbs
$37760 370Z 2dr Cpe Manual Touring
2012 Nissan Z Nissan 370Z coupe Car Buying Guide at CARandDRIVER.com- 2012 Nissan


So there you have it. 370z lighter and has more HP. BMW edges it on torque but also red lines at a much lower RPM. So just viewing these numbers I find it hard to believe the 335 would be any faster. Maybe off the line due to its peak torque coming at a lower rpm..


EDIT: Definitly agree the m3 ,m1 are faster. M3 by a lot, m1 not too much. normal bmers though are not