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Baer383 03-03-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1580172)
It's not much bs to go request a tech and inspect a facility. I hope they do a good job, but so far if anyone can, they seem like the people. Gave me the managers cell number and I called him, was told to even though its his day off. He was polite and informative.

The glass is oem from Japan, and the manager told me that the type of bead they apply is of oem shape and size vs. The "round" bead some other shops draw. So far it sounds good.

If your getting oem glass great,the glass has alignment tabs on all 4 corners ,and the one's at the top actually go right into the pinch weld to set the exact height and depth so the windshield moulding sits perfect at the top by the roof.
On the bottom their are 2 tabs so when he puts the cowl back on it lines up where it should.

If it has all these tabs on it a blind monkey with boxing gloves on @ night couldn't Fvck this up.

Good luck

ImportConvert 03-03-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1580200)
If your getting oem glass great,the glass has alignment tabs on all 4 corners ,and the one's at the top actually go right into the pinch weld to set the exact height and depth so the windshield moulding sits perfect at the top by the roof.
On the bottom their are 2 tabs so when he puts the cowl back on it lines up where it should.

If it has all these tabs on it a blind monkey with boxing gloves on @ night couldn't Fvck this up.

Good luck

It's at Nissan now. Does even oem replacement glass have these, or just oem installed at the factory?

Baer383 03-03-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1580211)
It's at Nissan now. Does even oem replacement glass have these, or just oem installed at the factory?

On the 370 just oem glass ,factory or bought at the dealer as long as it is oem.

Meaning Nissan.

ImportConvert 03-03-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1580220)
On the 370 just oem glass ,factory or bought at the dealer as long as it is oem.

Meaning Nissan.

It's definitely oem Nissan. I went myself to the dealer to verify that it was oem. They confirmed that it was ordered through them and was. So I can for sure count on it having tabs?

Baer383 03-03-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1580222)
It's definitely oem Nissan. I went myself to the dealer to verify that it was oem. They confirmed that it was ordered through them and was. So I can for sure count on it having tabs?

When I put mine in a few months back mine had everything on it that my cracked on had including the bracket for the rear view mirror.

The problem with windshield companies (ours too) is that no matter how many times a glass tech has removed a particular windshield sh!t still breaks.

When mine broke I had my co replace the windshield in my car but I still disassembled it and removed the glass myself,the tech that came to put it in (I knew him)when Tom saw my car he understood why I removed it myself,he prep the glass I helped him set it and he left and I put the rest of my car back together myself.
Our glass co is one of the best in Atlanta but Tom(20 years exp.)completely understood why I did what I did.

You'll be fine:tiphat:

ImportConvert 03-03-2012 11:11 PM

Not very confidence inspiring.
Can those push pins on the cowl be re used, BTW?

ImportConvert 03-04-2012 01:17 AM

This is reassuring at least.
Safelite AutoGlass - Business details

ImportConvert 03-04-2012 01:24 AM

Ps. Why is my thread about a 370z windshield in this forum now?

nmjaxx9 03-04-2012 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1580435)
Ps. Why is my thread about a 370z windshield in this forum now?

I guess because the windshield isn't part of the car? :bowrofl:

Baer383 03-04-2012 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1580435)
Ps. Why is my thread about a 370z windshield in this forum now?

There are other threads I made one about mine,and no those tabs cannot be removed from your windshield to be put on a aftermarket one this is one of the reasons those windshields are cheaper the aftermarket co. doesn't have to buy them and figure out where they go.

ImportConvert 03-04-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1580509)
There are other threads I made one about mine,and no those tabs cannot be removed from your windshield to be put on a aftermarket one this is one of the reasons those windshields are cheaper the aftermarket co. doesn't have to buy them and figure out where they go.

Good, so the windshield WILL HAVE TABS. That's all I wanted to know. Now it's down to drawing a good bead (10 years of experience should help here...) and not tearing up my car to put it in. Still nervous. Will know in 72 hours.

Baer383 03-04-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1580200)
If your getting oem glass great,the glass has alignment tabs on all 4 corners ,and the one's at the top actually go right into the pinch weld to set the exact height and depth so the windshield moulding sits perfect at the top by the roof.
On the bottom their are 2 tabs so when he puts the cowl back on it lines up where it should.

If it has all these tabs on it a blind monkey with boxing gloves on @ night couldn't Fvck this up.

Good luck

Putting the bead on is easy it is determined by the cut on the nozzle once cut it puts the same bead on every car and the alignment tab make it idiot proof.

ImportConvert 03-04-2012 09:34 PM

Now I read more. I worry about if they will use a plunge cut, primer the pinch weld, etc :(
Nightmare.

Baer383 03-05-2012 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1581539)
Now I read more. I worry about if they will use a plunge cut, primer the pinch weld, etc :(
Nightmare.

Your talking about a full cut vs a partial cut there is nothing wrong with a full cut at all,I did a full cut on mine if you read my other post you would have seen where I said once the nozzle is cut the height of the bead will be the same out of the gun for any job he does until he changes the tip.

No to be a smart azz but I thing your lack of experience in this field is what is making you worry.

I said a few post back not to worry.:hello:

ImportConvert 03-05-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1581891)
Your talking about a full cut vs a partial cut there is nothing wrong with a full cut at all,I did a full cut on mine if you read my other post you would have seen where I said once the nozzle is cut the height of the bead will be the same out of the gun for any job he does until he changes the tip.

No to be a smart azz but I thing your lack of experience in this field is what is making you worry.

I said a few post back not to worry.:hello:

I brought a dozen doughnuts by the shop and confirmed my appointment (expressed worry). The manager was there, and he and another tech will be working on my car. Joe (manager) has experience doing work on Ferrari circuit cars as well as Porsche 997 series cars. I take it that the other tech is similarly experienced, as he has done work on Ferrari,Lambo, etc. According to the manager, his least favorite cars to work on are BMW Alpine series, and he rates my 370Z as moderate/easy.

I was told:

They would take it down to the pinch-weld, or if the original bead looks good and is solid, 1mm or so off. Then they would prime any areas scratched, as they said this was inevitable, and if left un-primed, will inevitably rust fast. They are using Sika products. They prefer not to use the "hanging tabs" on the OEM glass, and cut them off, as they say they can be off just a tiny bit and mess the job up. I defer to their experience. The glass and primed pinch-weld will then have the activator put on (after the glass is chemically cleaned), the bead will be laid, and the windshield set to dry, then the trim pieces will be put back on.

Anyway, they seemed very knowledgeable, experienced, and put up with me for 5 minutes. If anyone can do it right, I think it's these guys. It seems like a shop with a lot of collective talent, at least those present. Every now and then you luck into a little place like this that is part of the "big machine" (example, the tech at Wal-Mart one time who balanced the tires on my Trans Am and got a slightly out of round rim to be dead-smooth up to 120mp+, and spent 2 hours doing the job with their crappy machine until it was PERFECT).

ETA:

Yes, I know I am a pain in the *** and only know half of what I am talking about (if you want to be VERY CHARITABLE) regarding windshield replacement. I have clients in healthcare that do the same thing I am doing, and it annoys the hell out of me, which is why the doughnuts and the fact that I will tip cash if it goes as planned. I realize they are putting up with me, and going the extra mile, and I expect to pay for that, as well. I'm a worrier and annoying, and like things big and small explained to me, but I understand that and compensate well for it. It's just part of doing business with me, I'm sorry to say.

Baer383 03-05-2012 09:27 AM

Right cut off the factory tabs as they maybe off abit. What a crock of sh!t ,Nissan glass going in a new Nissan car this is one of reasons Safelite sucks.
my Nissan glass went right in perfect and mine is older than yours.
They cut them off to put the glass where they want it,I didn't know that they knew more about the 370 than Nissan.:shakes head:

ImportConvert 03-05-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1582074)
Right cut off the factory tabs as they maybe off abit. What a crock of sh!t ,Nissan glass going in a new Nissan car this is one of reasons Safelite sucks.
my Nissan glass went right in perfect and mine is older than yours.
They cut them off to put the glass where they want it,I didn't know that they knew more about the 370 than Nissan.:shakes head:

Who knows. I figured I'd probably hate the car after this as it will never be right and sell it in a year, anyway. Meh. Sucks that my enjoyment was cut so short. 3 days of fun, though, and I got 1 road-trip out of her, at least. :shakes head:


Windshield is a main structural component. Replacing it is like bending the frame, and then trying to bend it back. It's never...just...right. So yeah, I finally came to terms with the fact that this is going to be the car I forever hate and ramp over curbs and in general just don't give a **** about because it was ruined from nearly day 1, anyway.

Sucks, as I was hoping to enjoy owning this thing. Mice and men and all that. Now I'm going to be the guy throwing his keys across the hood and hitting **** in the street for sport in a "nice" car because he hates the thing, lol.

Sorry, just trying to find some humor in getting rid of a car that was in great shape and ending up with a junker by a twist of fate.

*or*

Just set it up on blocks, pay it down, take the hit, sell it in a year, forget the whole nightmare and try not to think about the $10K in depreciation. There will be other cool toys, I am sure.

Either way, it sucks, and I feel cheated out of what I was hoping would be an enjoyable ownership. I can see now this windshield thing will just end badly no-matter what most likely. One of those things that make you just HATE a car, like a rattle that won't go away.

semtex 03-05-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1582107)
Who knows. I figured I'd probably hate the car after this as it will never be right and sell it in a year, anyway. Meh. Sucks that my enjoyment was cut so short. 3 days of fun, though, and I got 1 road-trip out of her, at least. :shakes head:


Windshield is a main structural component. Replacing it is like bending the frame, and then trying to bend it back. It's never...just...right. So yeah, I finally came to terms with the fact that this is going to be the car I forever hate and ramp over curbs and in general just don't give a **** about because it was ruined from nearly day 1, anyway.

Sucks, as I was hoping to enjoy owning this thing. Mice and men and all that. Now I'm going to be the guy throwing his keys across the hood and hitting **** in the street for sport in a "nice" car because he hates the thing, lol.

Sorry, just trying to find some humor in getting rid of a car that was in great shape and ending up with a junker by a twist of fate.

*or*

Just set it up on blocks, pay it down, take the hit, sell it in a year, forget the whole nightmare and try not to think about the $10K in depreciation. There will be other cool toys, I am sure.

Either way, it sucks, and I feel cheated out of what I was hoping would be an enjoyable ownership. I can see now this windshield thing will just end badly no-matter what most likely. One of those things that make you just HATE a car, like a rattle that won't go away.

Dude that's a tad extreme isn't it? It's not like the frame is bent.

ImportConvert 03-05-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1582138)
Dude that's a tad extreme isn't it? It's not like the frame is bent.

If it is whistling/leaking/trim pieces constantly peeling up in hot sun/roof rusting/whatever/etc. it might as well be like the frame is bent. That will drive me insane and make the car an annoyance. I don't need this car. It does nothing my daily driver doesn't do that I NEED. It's a toy. Pure and simple. A luxury item. A device I own because of the pure hell of it. Something that used to make me smile when I took it out and played with it. When it ceases to do that, it ceases to have any value to me. It's not like it's my only car and it gets me to and from anything. When I drive it, I'm usually not going anywhere, just tooling around enjoying it. If I can't enjoy it, I'll probably just put it up on blocks and forget about it until the residual is greater than the owed, dump it, and find another toy.

flashburn 03-05-2012 10:30 AM

You really are blowing this way out of proportion. I've had several windshields replaced, and never had any issues (except for this recent time of them damaging the paint). The actual windshield installs have been perfect. Just relax. Hell, I'd tell you to watch them just so you can see how easy it really is.

phelan 03-05-2012 10:33 AM

....if that's your stance from a windshield replacement, the car deserves better.

Cmike2780 03-05-2012 10:41 AM

Wow...just wow. I'm OCD about stuff, but come on man, it's a windshield. They get replaced all the time, even on exotic cars. That doesn't mean the car is now junk or you need to sell it. If it makes you feel better, contact a high end car dealer like Porsche, Ferrari, whatever...and see what shop they would recommend.

TerribleONE 03-05-2012 10:48 AM

:werd: it is just a windshield man and can be replaced correctly if taken to the right place... I agree with others as well that if this is enough to "ruin the car" to you.. sell it and buy an old hatch that you really dont have to care about.. It could be worse man

ImportConvert 03-05-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1582170)
:werd: it is just a windshield man and can be replaced correctly if taken to the right place... I agree with others as well that if this is enough to "ruin the car" to you.. sell it and buy an old hatch that you really dont have to care about.. It could be worse man

Really only worried about: Looks different/sounds bad (wind-noise)/rusts/leaks.

I have seen horror story after horror story on the 'net, pictures, etc. and it seems like a GOOD install is something like one in twenty.

Part of it is also not having slept in nearly 20 hours, a bad 12 hour shift, and all of that magnifies my OCD. Of course, I am not going to deny the OCD and tendency to fixate. It just gets worse without sleep, and after a bad night at work (everyone who was alive when I got there, was alive when I left, so yeah, I have had worse nights, but it wasn't a good one. Very busy, didn't get to eat or hydrate like I normally would, got floated to another unit, etc. etc.)

flashburn 03-05-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1582176)
Really only worried about: Looks different/sounds bad (wind-noise)/rusts. I have seen horror story after horror story on the 'net, pictures, etc. and it seems like a GOOD install is something like one in twenty.

Part of it is also not having slept in nearly 20 hours, a bad 12 hour shift, and all of that magnifies my OCD.

Pick any subject, and search the internet about it. You are guaranteed to find a horror story about said subject.

TerribleONE 03-05-2012 10:53 AM

I hear you there man but unless something like this does happen when its being replaced, you really dont have to much to worry about. I am OCD as well especially about my cars, however I have had to replace a windshield before and I had no issues! Like said above, go to a highend shop even if you have to pay more.. and only be satisfied and pay if everything is 100% perfect

ImportConvert 03-05-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1582181)
I hear you there man but unless something like this does happen when its being replaced, you really dont have to much to worry about. I am OCD as well especially about my cars, however I have had to replace a windshield before and I had no issues! Like said above, go to a highend shop even if you have to pay more.. and only be satisfied and pay if everything is 100% perfect

Supposedly this shop does high-end work. They have a 997 TT driving from a city away this week just to get work done. Audi and Porsche don't have a glass guy here, they farm it out to a similar place, probably LA Glass or something. It's not about the name on the door, but the people in the place, from what I am seeing.

Red__Zed 03-05-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1582177)
Pick any subject, and search the internet about it. You are guaranteed to find a horror story about said subject.

Truth

Roadster4Us 03-05-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1582107)
Who knows. I figured I'd probably hate the car after this as it will never be right and sell it in a year, anyway. Meh. Sucks that my enjoyment was cut so short. 3 days of fun, though, and I got 1 road-trip out of her, at least. :shakes head:


Windshield is a main structural component. Replacing it is like bending the frame, and then trying to bend it back. It's never...just...right. So yeah, I finally came to terms with the fact that this is going to be the car I forever hate and ramp over curbs and in general just don't give a **** about because it was ruined from nearly day 1, anyway.

Sucks, as I was hoping to enjoy owning this thing. Mice and men and all that. Now I'm going to be the guy throwing his keys across the hood and hitting **** in the street for sport in a "nice" car because he hates the thing, lol.

Sorry, just trying to find some humor in getting rid of a car that was in great shape and ending up with a junker by a twist of fate.

*or*

Just set it up on blocks, pay it down, take the hit, sell it in a year, forget the whole nightmare and try not to think about the $10K in depreciation. There will be other cool toys, I am sure.

Either way, it sucks, and I feel cheated out of what I was hoping would be an enjoyable ownership. I can see now this windshield thing will just end badly no-matter what most likely. One of those things that make you just HATE a car, like a rattle that won't go away.

Or we could wait and see how the install goes before putting a salvage title on it. :icon17:

Talk about worrying if everything will work like new after the visit, just wait until you schedule your first colonoscopy :roflpuke2:

Sounds like you have a great place with really good people. You really can't ask for more than that.

GaleForce 03-05-2012 11:41 AM

You really should think about taking public transit instead... You're going to die young if you stress out like this about every little thing.

semtex 03-05-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1582269)
You really should think about taking public transit instead... You're going to die young if you stress out like this about every little thing.

Yeah but then he'd just stress out about the bus not running on schedule. :rolleyes:

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ImportConvert 03-05-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1582269)
You really should think about taking public transit instead... You're going to die young if you stress out like this about every little thing.

Oddly, most people on my Father's side of the family are OCD and tend to fixate on things, etc. They also live into their 90's barring accidents. Considering that I tend to approach things very cautiously when my person could be forfeit, I am *likely* to be around to endure my personality disorders for quite some time.

Ironically I have taken the bus 3 times. Once from Louisiana to South Texas, and it broke down and we had no AC. Once from South Texas back to Louisiana, and it went okay. Once the public transit in SHreveport, LA, for a Community Health assignment when I was in clinical. I bailed off of it about 4 miles from my apartment and jogged home when someone reeking of rotten meat got on the bus.

ImportConvert 03-05-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1582177)
Pick any subject, and search the internet about it. You are guaranteed to find a horror story about said subject.

"Sex with a beautiful woman" resulted in Tucker Max's website. :bowrofl:

Cmike2780 03-05-2012 03:27 PM

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/...OCD-Attack.jpg

toddvk 03-05-2012 06:24 PM

I recently had the windshield in my wifes Altima replaced by Safelite and they did a excellent job. The windshield is tight with no wind noise and everything was done neatly and clean. I feel your stress but think you have nothing to worry about. I did wash the car before I brought it in so that if they leaned up againt the car or brushed up against it which I am sure they did, the dirt on the car would not scratch the paint. So that would be my advice, wash the car before dropping it off for install. On a lighter note, I recently installed the light up sill plates and during install, burned a hole in my carpet with the trouble light and had a fit about that. Cannot see it as it is under the floor mats but I know it is there so it bothers me. I quess we are all a little OCD.

flashburn 03-05-2012 07:01 PM

You should probably bring them 4 dozen donuts instead of just one dozen. There might not be enough to go around, and they might do something horrible to your car just to spite you.

Trips 03-05-2012 08:23 PM

Jesus Christ!!!

8 pages to discuss your windshield replacement?

Get it fixed like 99% of normal folks and if you're not HAPPY? Sell it and move on.


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