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ImportConvert 03-01-2012 05:37 PM

Safelite called. They told me they have a guy who does 350/370's and they know exactly what is involved. Before I even told them all that I was worried about, they described the process and that they had yet to crack the pillar finishers. They are having me bring them the car vs. having the mobile service come to me because they told me their guys at the shop usually take a bit more time than the mobile guys. Made me feel a lot better. Total cost is $500 to me, $7XX actual, I was told. They will have an OEM windshield on hand Monday, and I am to come in Tuesday. Still nervous about it, but it's not like I have a choice, and they SEEM to know what they are talking about.

Baer383 03-01-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1576173)
Proof?

I'm not going to sit here and type out proof ,our bodyshop owns it's own glass co. and some of there techs came from Safelite and told me what goes on and that's enough for me.

flashburn 03-01-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1576196)
I'm not going to sit here and type out proof ,our bodyshop owns it's own glass co. and some of there techs came from Safelite and told me what goes on and that's enough for me.

Okay, whatever you say.

Baer383 03-01-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1576205)
Okay, whatever you say.

Thanks for seeing it my way.:hello:

ImportConvert 03-01-2012 10:35 PM

Any other words of wisdom?

m4a1mustang 03-01-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1576799)
Any other words of wisdom?

Now the tables have turned... they will offer YOU refreshments! :p

ImportConvert 03-01-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1576804)
Now the tables have turned... they will offer YOU refreshments! :p

But will it seal OEM well? Will it leak later on (or that day?)? The trim pieces can be readily had factory painted, so that's no longer a real stresser for me. I am now wondering about the integrity of the adhesive vs. OEM. I know windshields are a load-bearing item, will it do so just as well as it used to?

GaleForce 03-01-2012 10:59 PM

The adhesive should be as good as factory. The important thing, like someone already said, is make sure they wear gloves and don't touch the edges of the glass where the adhesive will contact the glass. It really shouldn't be an issue. They usually use the big suction cups with grips to position the glass.

And make sure they clean out all of the old adhesive before installing the new glass.

ImportConvert 03-01-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1576840)
The adhesive should be as good as factory. The important thing, like someone already said, is make sure they wear gloves and don't touch the edges of the glass where the adhesive will contact the glass. It really shouldn't be an issue. They usually use the big suction cups with grips to position the glass.

And make sure they clean out all of the old adhesive before installing the new glass.

Thanks! I suppose I should not stress so much, the windshield is a maintenance item, after all.

GaleForce 03-01-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1576842)
Thanks! I suppose I should not stress so much, the windshield is a maintenance item, after all.

Don't worry... I'm as anal about this stuff as you are. :tup:

ImportConvert 03-01-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1576851)
Don't worry... I'm as anal about this stuff as you are. :tup:

Has your windshield been destroyed and replaced?

Jordo! 03-01-2012 11:26 PM

Not covered by insurance in LA?

ImportConvert 03-01-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1576874)
Not covered by insurance in LA?

It is, but I have a $500 deductible. Yay. :shakes head:

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 05:27 AM

Still stressing :(
Will be until it's done Tuesday morning. It's taking them all week-end to get the OEM glass in. They ordered directly through the dealer.

Baer383 03-02-2012 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1576799)
Any other words of wisdom?

In a nutshell Safelite breaks allot of sh!t on people cars and deny it,it is typical of them,but once I find out a co.sucks I don't try to figure it out pass that the guys who I have spoke with told me horror story of them accidentally breaking stuff on cust. cars and telling dispatch and they tell him to put the broken stuff back on.

I'll just leave it at that.

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1577061)
In a nutshell Safelite breaks allot of sh!t on people cars and deny it,it is typical of them,but once I find out a co.sucks I don't try to figure it out pass that the guys who I have spoke with told me horror story of them accidentally breaking stuff on cust. cars and telling dispatch and they tell him to put the broken stuff back on.

I'll just leave it at that.

Sucks. I'm taking it to the shop rather than going mobile. I am also planning on watching them perform the work. Almost seems like once the windshield is replaced, the car is junked as far as ever being right again. This is crap :( 3 days old and already might as well have bought a wrecked one and saved a ton of money. So much for enjoying the thing. Now the leaks/rattles/broken **** will just piss me off when I look at it.

mantella87 03-02-2012 06:00 AM

Sounds like you have anxiety problems man. You're not the first person who needs a new windshield on a brand new car, you won't be the last. It will probably be fixed with no complications, good as new.

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mantella87 (Post 1577071)
Sounds like you have anxiety problems man. You're not the first person who needs a new windshield on a brand new car, you won't be the last. It will probably be fixed with no complications, good as new.

Yes, I do. Serious admission, no sarcasm.

Intellectually, I get it. Anxiety wise...no.

SPOHN 03-02-2012 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1577074)
Yes, I do. Serious admission, no sarcasm.

Intellectually, I get it. Anxiety wise...no.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm the same way. But after it fixed and a few weeks go by I'm fine.

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1577103)
Nothing wrong with that. I'm the same way. But after it fixed and a few weeks go by I'm fine.

Yes. I hope it all goes well. : /

Roadster4Us 03-02-2012 07:25 AM

Stop by Dunkin and grab a dozen donuts. Don't hand them to the front desk, installer might never see them. Leave them on the passenger side and then when you actually talk to the guy doing the install, let him know the donuts are for him and his buddies.

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadster4Us (Post 1577129)
Stop by Dunkin and grab a dozen donuts. Don't hand them to the front desk, installer might never see them. Leave them on the passenger side and then when you actually talk to the guy doing the install, let him know the donuts are for him and his buddies.

Will do. It's 8am when the appointment is, so it will help those out who skipped breakfast and they will appreciate it much, I am sure!

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 07:54 AM

Well, this makes me feel better...
Corvette Forum - View Single Post - Anyone gotten your windsheld broken?

LOTS! of cracked windshields on the 'vette forum. I guess I just got lucky with mine. I have yet to find a "Safelite screwed my car up" post, so that makes me feel better.

GaleForce 03-02-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1576868)
Has your windshield been destroyed and replaced?

Not on my Z, but on two of my other cars. Both were replaced with OEM glass and looked just like they rolled off the line at the factory when done. No leaking, and the rubber seals around the edge of the glass look good.

Definitely follow the donut suggestion, maybe get a bunch of medium coffees with the fixings on the side. The guys in the back will really appreciate it. Makes for a nice start of the day. :tup:

Stop stressing, take a deep breath, it will all work out.

m4a1mustang 03-02-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1577168)
Not on my Z, but on two of my other cars. Both were replaced with OEM glass and looked just like they rolled off the line at the factory when done. No leaking, and the rubber seals around the edge of the glass look good.

Definitely follow the donut suggestion, maybe get a bunch of medium coffees with the fixings on the side. The guys in the back will really appreciate it. Makes for a nice start of the day. :tup:

Stop stressing, take a deep breath, it will all work out.

:iagree:

If you bring donuts they are going to love you forever and take extra care.

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1577172)
:iagree:

If you bring donuts they are going to love you forever and take extra care.

I will. All kinds.
I wish I had a hot sister or something that I could exploit by paying her to flirt with them and pretend it was her car and that she was a FREAK about maintenance...and other things.

m4a1mustang 03-02-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1577175)
I will. All kinds.
I wish I had a hot sister or something that I could exploit by paying her to flirt with them and pretend it was her car and that she was a FREAK about maintenance...and other things.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

GaleForce 03-02-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1577175)
I will. All kinds.
I wish I had a hot sister or something that I could exploit by paying her to flirt with them and pretend it was her car and that she was a FREAK about maintenance...and other things.

Well... I'm just going to put this out there as a possible solution... make sure you have some lip balm... apply it seductively, the occasional wink doesn't hurt either. Oh, and make sure you wear a deep v-neck t-shirt. :tup:

ImportConvert 03-02-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1577247)
Well... I'm just going to put this out there as a possible solution... make sure you have some lip balm... apply it seductively, the occasional wink doesn't hurt either. Oh, and make sure you wear a deep v-neck t-shirt. :tup:

I have a tube-sock that I can fill with sand and tape to my inner thigh, as well. 2" or so above the knee should motivate...one way, or another. :roflpuke2:

GaleForce 03-02-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1577274)
I have a tube-sock that I can fill with sand and tape to my inner thigh, as well. 2" or so above the knee should motivate...one way, or another. :roflpuke2:

Nice thinking! I like your style! :roflpuke2:

ImportConvert 03-03-2012 03:06 AM

Meh. I just know they are going to **** up the weather seals or trim or something :(

bvl 03-03-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1576173)
Proof?


Would have to see where they got the OEM to support the quality hypothesis. If I was given the choice between PPG (who does a lot of glass) vs. stock made in China Safelite glass, I want PPG. This isn't to slam any and all things imported from China, but there are many products that are made on the cheap overseas in volume that happen to come from there. I was told that the Safelite glass was one of them by an employee.

I have had 3 replacements on my 2002 WRX via Safelite. Why three? Well first one didn't last all that long since there were quality issues in the glass (didn't seal...is that water coming in? why yes. Yes it is. Really guys?). They took care of that one, then a few years later crack #2. I used the same place (drive in, wait vs. at home/mobile). I had no real choice unless I went out of pocket with my insurance (USAA at the time, not some chump company). In all honesty the last one they put it didn't seal well either (can hear wind hiss in one corner) but it doesn't leak and I am tired of dealing with them.

Compared to the 2002 Subaru OEM glass, the replacements used simply did not have the same quality. Appearance, ease of chipping (how quickly does the glass start to pit? All cars as subject to micro-meteors when driving :D)

*My* experience is that Safelite uses **** glass but we often have no alternative because of the thieves ^D^D^D^D^D^D insurance companies have colluded with this company. If you try go elsewhere (say a local glass shop that uses PPG) you often get a hard time.

Its possible like paint, most OEMs are using thinner/cheaper glass now. I had original glass on my Miata. Pitted to hell, but it hit with plenty of highway rocks over 155K miles and was still chugging after 20 years. It did deserve a new windshield but I did not find a place I trusted to use good glass by the time I got sold it.

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ImportConvert 03-03-2012 09:13 AM

I am using OEM glass and spoke with the Safelite manager. He and a tech of 10+ years experience who has worked on 350/370Z's before will be doing the job. It's as good as I can do. : /

Roadster4Us 03-03-2012 09:18 AM

When I had my glass in a previous car replaced it was my choice as to the glass I wanted used. OEM or replacement. I chose OEM because I not only believed it was better quality but it also had the original markings. I had to wait a few weeks extra to get it. This was paid through my insurance Geico and installed by Safelite. I told Safelite what I wanted and that's what I got.

ImportConvert 03-03-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadster4Us (Post 1579398)
When I had my glass in a previous car replaced it was my choice as to the glass I wanted used. OEM or replacement. I chose OEM because I not only believed it was better quality but it also had the original markings. I had to wait a few weeks extra to get it. This was paid through my insurance Geico and installed by Safelite. I told Safelite what I wanted and that's what I got.

Same. Although, the Nissan dealer says they have my windshield in-hand now. Still, the manager wants to do the job Tuesday at 0800. If that's when he will have his "A" team on board, that's when it gets done.

Baer383 03-03-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1579384)
I am using OEM glass and spoke with the Safelite manager. He and a tech of 10+ years experience who has worked on 350/370Z's before will be doing the job. It's as good as I can do. : /

This is why I don't like Safelite you have go thru alott of b/s just to get your windshield put in.

Other co. would have done it right the first time,what a bunch of slack fvckers we have in our country.:shakes head:

SPOHN 03-03-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1579718)
what a bunch of slack fvckers we have in our country.:shakes head:

:iagree::iagree:

ak6ar 03-03-2012 02:24 PM

I ran across and interesting article that explains the differences between Dealer glass, OEM glass, OEE glass and aftermarket glass. I am not endorsing this company that posts the differences but the page is quite informative Auto Glass Article.

Apparently the highest quality are Dealer and OEM glass (but there are some specific differences as the article explains). After that there is OEE glass (which is what safelight and other places may provide). And then the lowest quality is usually aftermarket glass.

Baer383 03-03-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1576149)
Chris oem glass is better.:tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak6ar (Post 1579814)
I ran across and interesting article that explains the differences between Dealer glass, OEM glass, OEE glass and aftermarket glass. I am not endorsing this company that posts the differences but the page is quite informative Auto Glass Article.

Apparently the highest quality are Dealer and OEM glass (but there are some specific differences as the article explains). After that there is OEE glass (which is what safelight and other places may provide). And then the lowest quality is usually aftermarket glass.

I wonder where I read that!!!!:hello:

ImportConvert 03-03-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1579718)
This is why I don't like Safelite you have go thru alott of b/s just to get your windshield put in.

Other co. would have done it right the first time,what a bunch of slack fvckers we have in our country.:shakes head:

It's not much bs to go request a tech and inspect a facility. I hope they do a good job, but so far if anyone can, they seem like the people. Gave me the managers cell number and I called him, was told to even though its his day off. He was polite and informative.

The glass is oem from Japan, and the manager told me that the type of bead they apply is of oem shape and size vs. The "round" bead some other shops draw. So far it sounds good.


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