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So basically, you'd have to be a pretty advanced driver in a Z to be faster than a semi-competent (not good, but not terrible, maybe has a few days of exp) guy in a GT-R?
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well, I guess if you're on the track at the same time and the GT-R is behind you, it would be pretty hard to beat him since he could just follow your lines and punch it past you on a straight...
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at my first track day ever, i was behind my friend who is a better driver in his old miata, and I followed his lines and passed him on the straight since i have like triple his power, but he passed me again after a few more turns, haha.
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I am not sure how familiar you are with reading telemetry. Here is a picture of a lap comparing this guy's GT-R and my best run. You can see exactly where I am gaining and losing time to him on the graph below. And I know for a fact he was another sec or two quicker when he was following me when I did my best lap. Also he was nowhere close to the edge when he pushed for the time below. http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7184/370zgtr.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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A GTR was present. Our test to get on the track was a cone course. The GTR driver was lagging until the final timed event and took third. Cones are not the same as open tracking, but this was the result. Oddly enough I saw this car yesterday for the first time. I was waiting at a 5 minute red light when I saw a GTR stop behind me I gave him the thumbs up. He got out and said I know you. Sure enough he is the same GTR from Sears Point. He never sent photos of my car he took in August so I hope he sends them this time. |
i run a nissan dealership and i have about 20 trackdays under my belt with a 500whp bmw m6, now i have taken many customers to track days with there gtr's and they consistently put up times close to or better than much more experienced drivers in other cars. you still have to break properly and hit your apex but the gtr makes it easier to do it, you take a bad line and try to force a correction the gtr makes it easier, the other big thing is the throttle and the car rotating, my m6 i gotta baby the gas pedal in 2nd out of a turn, in the gtr its mash and go!!!! a tenth faster here a tenth faster there, a few tenths worth of good shifting and the car will mask allot!!!
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also all you have to look at is the ring times, the gtr is like number 4 out of every car on the planet that way allot less and have way more power, thats including your enzo's, carerra gt, italia, mp412c, all the hyper cars!!!! the zr1,viper, and a couple of others beat the gtr
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PS. - which pedal is the bag pedal? I assume gas. |
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Professional drivers, going all-out 10/10ths of their ability. Yes, it is one indicator of a car's performance potential. But a 7.5 minute ring time can't make a scrub faster on a track. |
I have never driven a GTR, only read ton and tons of reviews from people who have. One of the things that is almost universal is how easy it is for a novice to get in an do amazing around a track. The electronics in that car are just so dang good.
I'm not even thinking about the HP difference. I will, of course, yield to the experts here. Just tossing in my 2 cents. |
My father has a GT-R that I've driven on multiple occasions. I will admit that a novice driver will be able to do decent in it. But, the car will not figure out weight distribution in and out of corners, proper lines etc. (which have all been mentioned in the thread). But that's not to say it will make the car easier to drive. It takes a truly good driver to use all the technological gadgets in the GT-R to their advantage.
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The GTR goes beyond Simple HP numbers. It's like setting a race video game on easy. Can it be beat? yes. Here's what I can tell you the same driver does laps in a GTR then in a Z. I'm betting on the GTR laps being faster.
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