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Pushing_Tin 11-14-2011 11:26 PM

I really like Mustangs, but sweet mother of god, is that 80's mast antenna EVER going to disappear?

I'm always looking for my next car, but I'm loving my lightly used E63. Huge trunk, 4 doors and 0-60 in the low 4s. Win.

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1407592)
So with the 2013 gt500 there isn't much talking "just pit a SC on the 5.0". At 650 HP that's a lot of engine build for the 5.0 to get 650 safely.

:bowrofl:

It's the most powerful production V8 in the world. And it's the first Mustang rated to 200 mph. I would choose the 2013 GT500 over a 5.0. :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 1407596)
I really like Mustangs, but sweet mother of god, is that 80's mast antenna EVER going to disappear?

I'm always looking for my next car, but I'm loving my lightly used E63. Huge trunk, 4 doors and 0-60 in the low 4s. Win.

I bet it will be gone for the new 2014 car.

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:28 PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....ygt50019hr.jpg

Lemers 11-14-2011 11:37 PM

Any prices yet? I'm hoping they keep it close

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:38 PM

I don't see any pricing yet. Should be available soon, though.

I have a feeling these GT500s will fetch a pretty penny initially.

Lemers 11-14-2011 11:41 PM

The 2012 base were $48k with STV package and nav $55k. I can justify somewhere between those prices for all the gains

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1407624)
The 2012 base were $48k with STV package and nav $55k. I can justify somewhere between those prices for all the gains

It will be really interesting if they can keep the pricing close. Going from 550hp to 650 hp and a "200+ mph" top speed rating is a pretty big deal that probably will bring some added cost with it.

Lemers 11-14-2011 11:44 PM

Yes and if I get orders to Europe I really want to brung one with me. :)

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1407630)
Yes and if I get orders to Europe I really want to brung one with me. :)

:icon17:

Lemers 11-14-2011 11:46 PM

Wasn't 200 mph one of the supercar indicators?

Skeeterbop 11-14-2011 11:48 PM

I could see it fetching between 50-55k before the dealer tacks on their stupid market adjustment or w/e they want to call it.

Skeeterbop 11-14-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1407635)
Wasn't 200 mph one of the supercar indicators?

I do believe so.

FL 4Motion 11-14-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407598)
I bet it will be gone for the new 2014 car.

I hope so. Regardless, DAMN! I'm really liking where ford is taking the 'stang. At this rate, the next gen will be incredible.

Nissan, wake the fVck up already! :mad:

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:49 PM

Yeah but Supercars need to be really pricey. It might offer supercar performance, though.

Lemers 11-14-2011 11:50 PM

I want one. I talking to the wife tomorrow when I see her.

Lemers 11-14-2011 11:51 PM

Now if they'd bring back the bullet green for the gt500 I'd be in heaven

Skeeterbop 11-14-2011 11:52 PM

Just reading the Motortrend article, that thing sounds like it will be sick! Lemers, can I pay you to get a ride in that thing if you do buy it? :D

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1407642)
I hope so. Regardless, DAMN! I'm really liking where ford is taking the 'stang. At this rate, the next gen will be incredible.

Nissan, wake the fVck up already! :mad:

From what has been confirmed so far with the next gen is it will be 250 lbs lighter (minimum) and it will have direct injection and most likely IRS. So 3,350 lbs at maximum and somewhere around 450hp for the GT.

The V6 might be getting replaced with a turbo 4.

This 2013 GT500, though, is pretty damn interesting. I knew it'd be around 600 hp but wasn't expecting 650, and certainly wasn't expecting Ford to throw out the big "200." Hopefully they put out some 'Ring times to see how it compares to the ZL1.

FL 4Motion 11-14-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407643)
Yeah but Supercars need to be really pricey. It might offer supercar performance, though.

I disagree, it the car provides supercar performance stock, then by default, it is not a "supercar"?

Now exotic on the other hand, that a bit different, limited production #'s, price etc.

I judge if a car is "super" or not based off of it's stock performance abilitiy. Ie. the Viper ACR, ZR1 vette, GTR etc are all supercars, just like the 911 turbo and turbo S etc are as well.

I suppose you could say that all exotics are supercars, but not all supercars are exotic.

(and if an exotic car doesn't provide supercar performance for some reason, then it's more of a boutique type niche vehicle and not worth owning imo).

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:54 PM

If we continue to debate this we will murder ourselves and many others, so let's agree to disagree. I was mostly being facetious as "supercar" is debated here often. :D

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:55 PM

Also, I need to talk to Lou in the AM about this GT500. Where is that AA thread again? :rolleyes:

FL 4Motion 11-14-2011 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407650)
From what has been confirmed so far with the next gen is it will be 250 lbs lighter (minimum) and it will have direct injection and most likely IRS. So 3,350 lbs at maximum and somewhere around 450hp for the GT.

The V6 might be getting replaced with a turbo 4.

This 2013 GT500, though, is pretty damn interesting. I knew it'd be around 600 hp but wasn't expecting 650, and certainly wasn't expecting Ford to throw out the big "200." Hopefully they put out some 'Ring times to see how it compares to the ZL1.


I'm really really interested in seeing what the next gen 'stang turns out like. Ford is just hitting home run after home run with this car now. If nissan kills the Z, I can see picking one of the next gen GTs or Boss 302's as a nice addition to our Nismo Z at some point (unless the wife gets her way and we just pick up a lightly used GTR instead).

FL 4Motion 11-14-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407655)
If we continue to debate this we will murder ourselves and many others, so let's agree to disagree. I was mostly being facetious as "supercar" is debated here often. :D

Agreed, I remember some of the convos on here about this topic. :icon17:

m4a1mustang 11-14-2011 11:57 PM

Things just keep getting better and better for car guys. I think we have a few more years of this left before Gov't comes in and makes us all buy one collective Prius.

Lemers 11-14-2011 11:59 PM

GTR maintenance scares me and used GTR maintenance scares me even more. It's a great car but highly precision

FL 4Motion 11-15-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407662)
Things just keep getting better and better for car guys. I think we have a few more years of this left before Gov't comes in and makes us all buy one collective Prius.

One EV to to rule them all. One EV to find them, One EV to bring them all, and in the Darkness, bind them...

Skeeterbop 11-15-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407650)
From what has been confirmed so far with the next gen is it will be 250 lbs lighter (minimum) and it will have direct injection and most likely IRS. So 3,350 lbs at maximum and somewhere around 450hp for the GT.

The V6 might be getting replaced with a turbo 4.

This 2013 GT500, though, is pretty damn interesting. I knew it'd be around 600 hp but wasn't expecting 650, and certainly wasn't expecting Ford to throw out the big "200." Hopefully they put out some 'Ring times to see how it compares to the ZL1.

If that is true, the Z would be in big trouble if Nissan doesn't do any updates by then. I would definitely look at the Mustang if that comes true.

Lemers 11-15-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1407662)
Things just keep getting better and better for car guys. I think we have a few more years of this left before Gov't comes in and makes us all buy one collective Prius.

No in this country it will be the volt from government motors and we will be on a waiting list for years to get one.

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1407666)
One EV to to rule them all. One EV to find them, One EV to bring them all, and in the Darkness, bind them...

In the Land of Green where Treehuggers lie.

Skeeterbop 11-15-2011 12:04 AM

This made me :inoutroflpuke::inoutroflpuke:

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Originally Posted by Motortrend.com
An on-board accelerometer allows Track apps to measure the car's g force as it pulls from left to right while turning, or fore and aft while accelerating and braking. Track apps can also measure 0-30 mph, 0-60 mph, and 0-100 mph times, and for drag racers, eighth-mile and quarter-mile times. All five of those metrics can be initiated with a virtual drag racing start light, so Mustang drivers can hone their skills off the track.

As if street racing really needs to be encouraged.

FL 4Motion 11-15-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1407664)
GTR maintenance scares me and used GTR maintenance scares me even more. It's a great car but highly precision

having owned a couple of them in the past, the standard maintenance isn't bad at all, tires are the worst part imo. Love it or hate, that black box is what makes buying a used GTR not such a hit or miss event. Provided you have a good dealer and GTR mech (luckily I do) I can have them download and read me the logs so I'll know if it was ever run with VDC off (deal breaker) how many times launched etc.

If i get a used one, as new GTR prices are to rich for my blood now, it'll include a 7 year, 100K warrantee on it and that is one car that will stay almost completely stock.

The biggest "issue" would/will be the lifespan of the GR6 trans. They don't work on them, it's throw away and replace thru the dealer, at 20K a pop. However, were that to happen out of warrantee, I could have it rebuilt completely with stronger internals thru Sharif at Forged for instance, for around 12-15K and end up with a trans that could handle 800-1000hp if I went that route.

It is an amazing car and depending on how "frugal" I'm feeling when the time comes, I may end up owning another one again at some point down the line.

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 12:06 AM

Ford was sneaky with the LCD track app, and in the press photos they included what I think are their "official" performance specs for the 5.0.

0-60 4.7
1/4 12.6 @ 117

b1adesofcha0s 11-15-2011 09:26 AM

Damn the 2013 GT500 looks sick and those power numbers :drool:

Armonster 11-15-2011 09:43 AM

Loving the performance of these cars, and the looks are getting better with each refresh. Now it's just the interior that needs to be overhauled.

Lemers 11-15-2011 10:02 AM

The GT is allowing the recaro upgrade for 2013

b1adesofcha0s 11-15-2011 10:11 AM

You know what I like best about the upgrade? :D

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Previously only available on manual-equipped Mustangs, the Brembo Brake Package and the V-6 Performance Package are both now available on automatic-equipped Mustangs. Speaking of which, Ford has decided to include SelectShift with the Mustang's six-speed automatic transmission. Controlled by a button on the side of the new shifter, SelectShift will allow drivers of those Mustangs to manually control what gear the car is in, without the ECU attempting to override the driver's wishes.
Yeah that's right, fvck you Steve :icon17:

b1adesofcha0s 11-15-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1408033)
The GT is allowing the recaro upgrade for 2013

And you can get them in leather too.

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1408054)
You know what I like best about the upgrade? :D



Yeah that's right, fvck you Steve :icon17:

:bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 11-15-2011 10:25 AM

I must resist the urge to drive a 5.0.........Do it for the GT-R Shahid, FOR THE GT-R! :rofl2:


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