From what I read a few months back, the 2011 GT500 was the first car Ford used it on, but had been researched by them since the early 90's.

But you stooped down to a lowly Datsun, which weren't exactly viewed in the best of lights in the 60s and 70s.

There is no VQ in the GT-R. The VR38 and the VQ share absolutely nothing in common.

You're right, it is a VR engine. But my point was that even though the name changes don't you think Nissan learned alot from the VQ engine? Do you think Nissan would have been able to build a VR engine without previous experience from the VQ engine?

so korean companies can def not make a nice car on their first try.

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[QUOTE=ImportConvert;1232175]I agree. People are going to look to the Genesis to see how Hyundai has been doing. So far, it has slotted in beneath it's competitors. Maybe they are going to rely on decisively superior 'ring times/magazine numbers and first-impression upon seeing the interior?[/QUOTE]

they're going to have to. What else will they be able to bring to the table? No competitive racing pedigree ala corvette, porsche, GTR; no name brank recognition (same examples). they will have to soley rely on having an honest to goodness awesome example of automotive engineering.

Honestly, i don't think they'll get it 100% right on the first try, but if they get 85-90% of the way there, they'll def put everyone on notice since their next gen will def be a huge step up if their history is any indication.

[QUOTE=FL 4Motion;1233610]:iagree:

Pretty much what's happening with the Genesis coupe.

they need to include a 10 year maintanence package... f yea!

Hyundai could make a car that was well worth 100k, if it wanted to. It all depends on how much time, energy, and money they choose to spend on R&D and development. With enough money you can basically build anything.

Yes. It took Nissan 8 years to develop the GT-R. And Nissan has had great motors long before the VQ - the VG and even VE were indestructible. It's not like in one fell swoop Nissan knew exactly what kind of motor to design and use for the GT-R. It took countless changes and many years.

one question. why is everyone assuming that since the company hasnt built one, that none of the engineers have been part of super car projects?

that none of the companies they consult with have any experience.

Hyundai has worked with Porsche and the Ferrari outfitters before... And its not unhread of that companies collaborate or share ideas/technology even with competition?

Jus sayin..

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/w...ar-Concept.jpg

All perceptions of hyundai as a brand aside, I wouldn't pay 100k for that because IT'S ******* HIDEOUS! :roflpuke2:

^ d i t t o ! ! !

im glad you pulled up a 2004 concept car.

nearly every pure concept car ever made is hidious.

Don't blame me, it's the image from the article linked in the OP.