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Gunzero 06-12-2011 05:11 PM
nice!

TypeOne 06-13-2011 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm (Post 1163101)
180 mph, oh let me make this left turn here.............. no problem.

LOL

I was waiting for that!

I'm thinking... lift...lift...lift.. ohhh!!!

I have much respect for that car and driver. Awesome video!

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SMJane_Again (Post 1164743)
Import,

I actually looked at yours first, then checked out M4A1's. The difference I think was that you presented the video as a brash, in-your-face "Corvette uber-alles/ what now, Nissan GTR/ Suck it, b!tches" fire starter whereas M4A1's was more about recognizing the accomplishment of the 'Vette from a neutral, "car-enthusiast" standpoint. Which is cool, that's completely your call as how you put things out there, but it can make it a little awkward to comment on. Just how I see it, based on how your posts seem to trend.

Regardless, Jim Mero and the ZR1 deserve all the kudos, great use of the Sport Cups by Chevrolet, and Mero obviously has some big brass cajones. Excellent vid!

S.
I think it was the title, but you nailed it. Nissan kicks out challenges (mainly to Porsche), but holding the title of fastest production 'Ring lap time opens you up to it, and I kicked it right to Nissan and their fans with my post.

King's to you, it's your move!

Competition is good. Everyone benefits from it who deserves to. Lets see Nissan/Porsche/Dodge (New Viper in '12)/Chevy and others keep throwing the gauntlet down!

shadoquad 06-13-2011 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1165813)
Competition is good. Everyone benefits from it who deserves to. Lets see Nissan/Porsche/Dodge (New Viper in '12)/Chevy and others keep throwing the gauntlet down!
:iagree: If not for the tweaked porsches and gtr's out there, would Chevy have gone wild with the ZR1?

Again, I've never seen a video where a production vette could handle like that.

Tires make a difference, sure, but a lot of other things have to go right on the design of the car to get there.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1165979)
:iagree: If not for the tweaked porsches and gtr's out there, would Chevy have gone wild with the ZR1?

Again, I've never seen a video where a production vette could handle like that.

Tires make a difference, sure, but a lot of other things have to go right on the design of the car to get there.
Yes they do!

A lot of what you saw/admire is the PTM and the Magnetic suspension.

The PTM is very similar to Racelogic, and the Mag suspension has been leased to every other company that uses it because Porsche and Ferrari can't beat GM's design so they lease it/pay for it.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 12:03 PM
The mag shocks are impressive. :)

shadoquad 06-13-2011 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1166229)
Yes they do!

A lot of what you saw/admire is the PTM and the Magnetic suspension.

The PTM is very similar to Racelogic, and the Mag suspension has been leased to every other company that uses it because Porsche and Ferrari can't beat GM's design so they lease it/pay for it.
I'm impressed that GM is leasing that out. It means it's the best.

It's like Mitsubishi's Turbos, or Honda and Toyota's hybrid tech from a few years back, leased out for the benefit of others.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1166253)
I'm impressed that GM is leasing that out. It means it's the best.

It's like Mitsubishi's Turbos, or Honda and Toyota's hybrid tech from a few years back, leased out for the benefit of others.
Same, and to be perfectly honest, I am butthurt that I didn't fork over the extra $9K to get it and the CB's in my car. If I had, I probably would not be lusting after a different ride in another year or so.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dad (Post 1164789)
So! BFD!
Just playing my role here. :tiphat:

shadoquad 06-13-2011 04:10 PM
Time to shlob the ZR-1's knob a little more.

Of course, the Vette took home a class win at Le Mans this weekend.

When I was watching the broadcast, they mentioned how out of all of the cars in the production class, the off-the-showroom ZR1 is closest to the actual race car. The main differences were that the race car had wider flared fenders to suit the fat racing wheels, and that the engine was de-tuned from the production version to meet the 500ish hp limit for that class.

Econ 06-13-2011 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1166624)
Time to shlob the ZR-1's knob a little more.

Of course, the Vette took home a class win at Le Mans this weekend.

When I was watching the broadcast, they mentioned how out of all of the cars in the production class, the off-the-showroom ZR1 is closest to the actual race car. The main differences were that the race car had wider flared fenders to suit the fat racing wheels, and that the engine was de-tuned from the production version to meet the 500ish hp limit for that class.
i have a le mans vette :)


http://www.classyauto.com/image_larg...mage_id=340832
this one isnt mine, no pics on this comp.

Dark Sarcasm 06-13-2011 06:14 PM
hmmmm, $105,000 gets you a ZR1 that'll do "the Ring" on dry pavement 5 seconds faster than a $90,000 '11 GTR in semi-wet conditions. Oh, and you have to be a bad-***, balls out driver like that guy in the ZR1. Mad props to that dude.

wstar 06-13-2011 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm (Post 1166903)
Oh, and you have to be a bad-***, balls out driver like that guy in the ZR1. Mad props to that dude.
He's an awesome driver for sure, but reviews on the PTM system have been sounding like it's going to make bad drivers look really good (e.g.: Edmunds Full-Test - 2010 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 w PTM - LS1TECH).

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1166980)
He's an awesome driver for sure, but reviews on the PTM system have been sounding like it's going to make bad drivers look really good (e.g.: Edmunds Full-Test - 2010 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 w PTM - LS1TECH).
One test I read with the PTM tested on a course like Leguna or VIR or something (ie. not a huge one like the 'ring) said that PTM shaved about 1/2 second off of Merl's time, and around 2 seconds off of an "enthusiasts" time. PTM really does kick *** from what I understand. It's the same thing almost identically as that $2000 Racelogic kit GTM raves about from what I understand.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1163211)
Yeah those are now the stock tires for the ZR1. What they were saying is that those are the best street legal tires they could put on there.
They only come stock on the performance package ZR1. Yes. The ZR1 now has a "high performance" model option, lol

b1adesofcha0s 06-13-2011 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1167416)
They only come stock on the performance package ZR1. Yes. The ZR1 now has a "high performance" model option, lol
So there is a low performance ZR1 :icon17:

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1167418)
So there is a low performance ZR1 :icon17:
"All Corvettes are high performance cars: the difference is only in degree."-Performance Data Corvette Chief ZoraArkus-Duntov

b1adesofcha0s 06-13-2011 10:23 PM
So a lesser performing ZR1?

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1167493)
So a lesser performing ZR1?
The performance ZR1 package keeps the old ZR1 transmissions ratio's and gets the PS CUP tires.

The non-"performance package" ZR1 gets a double-overdrive similar to the current Z06 and rolls on PS2 ZP's. Worth a mpg or two here and there supposedly.

Isamu 06-13-2011 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1165979)
:iagree: If not for the tweaked porsches and gtr's out there, would Chevy have gone wild with the ZR1?

Again, I've never seen a video where a production vette could handle like that.

Tires make a difference, sure, but a lot of other things have to go right on the design of the car to get there.
that's why it's a 6 figure car... lol

KillerBee370 06-14-2011 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm (Post 1163101)
180 mph, oh let me make this left turn here.............. no problem.
Exactaly what I was thinking...

Isamu 06-14-2011 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1170260)
Exactaly what I was thinking...
don't you mean... wishing what you could do in the Z...lol

KillerBee370 06-14-2011 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1170278)
don't you mean... wishing what you could do in the Z...lol
Shoot man no doubt! I'm in turns 1 & 2 at Auto Club Speedway at 120 wondering if I'm going to spin up into the wall or what. And that's with like a 14% bank!! LOL

Isamu 06-15-2011 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1170280)
Shoot man no doubt! I'm in turns 1 & 2 at Auto Club Speedway at 120 wondering if I'm going to spin up into the wall or what. And that's with like a 14% bank!! LOL
still 120 is better then alot of "comparable" cars could handle

Dark Sarcasm 06-16-2011 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1166263)
The ZR1 does 120 in Jack in the Box drive thru's.

I said it for you.

m4a1mustang 06-16-2011 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm (Post 1173698)
I said it for you.
:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 06-16-2011 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm (Post 1173698)
I said it for you.
:bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 06-23-2011 07:40 PM
Saw this on Motor Trend today. A Z06 with Z07 options package laps the Ring with a time just 3 seconds behind the ZR1. Z06 win or ZR1 fail?

Video Find: 2012 Corvette Z06 ?Ring Time Improves by 20 Seconds - WOT on Motor Trend

m4a1mustang 06-23-2011 08:09 PM
Z06 win and definitely not a ZR1 fail. The Z06 with the Z07 package is basically a lighter ZR1 with a bit less power. But these cars are to the point where the only way to really get them to go around the track quicker is to start adding downforce.

b1adesofcha0s 06-23-2011 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1186728)
Z06 win and definitely not a ZR1 fail. The Z06 with the Z07 package is basically a lighter ZR1 with a bit less power. But these cars are to the point where the only way to really get them to go around the track quicker is to start adding downforce.
I was just joking, but good to know Mr 5.0 :tup:

FL 4Motion 06-24-2011 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1186728)
Z06 win and definitely not a ZR1 fail. The Z06 with the Z07 package is basically a lighter ZR1 with a bit less power. But these cars are to the point where the only way to really get them to go around the track quicker is to start adding downforce.
/\ if you start adding significantly more downforce, you'll need to increase hp proportionately to account for it, otherwise, top speed will suffer, esp on big fast tracks like the 'ring that have very long straights.

m4a1mustang 06-24-2011 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1187042)
/\ if you start adding significantly more downforce, you'll need to increase hp proportionately to account for it, otherwise, top speed will suffer, esp on big fast tracks like the 'ring that have very long straights.
You'll cut your top speed, but in the scheme of things you'll gain much more because of the sheer amount of corners. Plus on the 'Ring there aren't that many real straights where you'd suffer from added drag. I can think of less than a handful. Most of the "straights" on the track have some corners where a bit of extra downforce would probably help. :icon17:

FL 4Motion 06-24-2011 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1187227)
You'll cut your top speed, but in the scheme of things you'll gain much more because of the sheer amount of corners. Plus on the 'Ring there aren't that many real straights where you'd suffer from added drag. I can think of less than a handful. Most of the "straights" on the track have some corners where a bit of extra downforce would probably help. :icon17:
psssh, always a good idea to add more horsepower anytime it's possible, jeesh. :twocents:

m4a1mustang 06-24-2011 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1188308)
psssh, always a good idea to add more horsepower anytime it's possible, jeesh. :twocents:
:icon17:

ImportConvert 06-26-2011 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1186728)
Z06 win and definitely not a ZR1 fail. The Z06 with the Z07 package is basically a lighter ZR1 with a bit less power. But these cars are to the point where the only way to really get them to go around the track quicker is to start adding downforce.
The Z06 trades power for weight/balance.

m4a1mustang 06-26-2011 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1189778)
The Z06 trades power for weight/balance.
Is that not what I just said?

b1adesofcha0s 06-26-2011 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1189786)
Is that not what I just said?
:iagree:

ImportConvert 06-26-2011 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1189786)
Is that not what I just said?
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1186728)
Z06 win and definitely not a ZR1 fail. The Z06 with the Z07 package is basically a lighter ZR1 with a bit less power. But these cars are to the point where the only way to really get them to go around the track quicker is to start adding downforce.
No, not really. The @ 100# weight is far less important than the balance. The ZR1 carries that 100# on it's nose.

BennytheBlade 06-26-2011 07:55 PM
The 60 mph hairpin was impressive as well... 1.8gs :icon14:

m4a1mustang 06-26-2011 07:56 PM
Anyone with half a brain would be able to infer that the balance was better after reading my post. ANYONE.


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