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Overwhelming Evidence (reviews by others) to date suggest the BRZ / FR-S are NOT under-powered / over-priced hence it doesn't make much sense to assume otherwise.

I've stated I wouldn't know one why or another until I got to drive one. However, based on what is known there is no good reason to assume the BRZ / FR-S will somehow be over-priced / under-powered.

When so many who've driven the cars have given them such overwhelming high praise suggesting the cars will somehow be sub par doesn't make any sense.

Now if you've actually driven the car and deemed the car somehow sub par that would be an opinion that actually made sense for you. You would then have a legitimate bases to form a negative opinion.

Not sure how much more clear I can make this...






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I saw a BRZ in the wild last night. Looks very nice!

:yum: You didn't save me any?? :shakes head:

Actually, overwhelming evidence shows, to me, that this car IS underpowered. That evidence being a 0-120MPH run that takes 28 seconds to achieve.

0-200 km/h : Subaru BRZ (Motorsport) - YouTube

Mer personally, I simply can't justify the cost for that kind of performance.

I am in when the add a turbo to 2.0

I wouldn't pay 28k for one, but for 15-18k I'd buy a used one to DD if I liked how it drove.

I love driving my s2000 even though its painfully slow. So its not all about power, but it is nice to have the 5.0 and clk500 when I need HP/torque.

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Every review boils down to: Handles and brakes great; needs more torque.

They're testing a twincharged version making 320 bhp. If THAT (or something very close to that) becomes available I'll get that next.

Otherwise, next car will be another Z.

S2000 is considerably faster than the BRZ/86.

the other thread was locked, so you find this one to repost the same thing again? we all get it by now. you love the brz/frs because magazines say its good.

this is getting to the level of spam now. :ugh2:

Enjoy your BRZ. :ugh2:

Performance-wise, it's basically a hard top MX5. That will be a great little car, but it really can't touch the Z -- a point recently confirmed in a vid of an autox shootout, BTW.

I'm really hoping they offer a factory boosted version -- that would be a Z killer and have tons of potential!

In current form it really only trumps the Z in specific driver-oriented qualia (e.g., feeling of "connectedness"). Otherwise it's just a lesser car all the way around.

High hopes for a FI variant, tho'.

Can we close this thread, too? =P

Anyways.

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I agree, for 20k new (less for used) I would pick one up for a DD.
It would be fun, cheap and a good car to get from A to B.

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