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370zsport09 10-26-2010 01:16 AM

YouTube - 2011 Mustang GT New 5.0 Ti-VCT V8

YouTube - 2011 Mustang GT Commercial 5.0L

YouTube - 2011 Ford Mustang Commercial

Jquad 10-26-2010 01:20 AM

This black GT just blew buy me yesterday and I was like WTF!Driving like there's no tom.! LOL it sounds mean to0! The l0ok is ok, but Id still pick Z all day:tup:. Sporty and sexy!:tup:

370zsport09 10-26-2010 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 781813)
It definitely would be nice to see the next Z get a nice bump in power! It deserves at least another 50hp.


Especially with the NISMO....and you would think having a BASE model....but no middle ground except in Styling rims and splash guards, NAV, etc....? They should of went all out in the NISMO...made the SPORT Model with the NISMO N/A mods...and then a BASE...they coulda saved alot of money and just kept the NISMO rims for all packages did away with SPORT and definitely kept the 350z rims cuz the BASE Rims are freakin BLAH :(

ImportConvert 10-26-2010 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 781811)
Nine thousand.

They made 4038. Care to explain how more than twice that many were EXPORTED? :icon14:

(According to my numbers, 100 went to Europe)

npdabest 10-26-2010 03:14 AM

I have to say, the new Mustang GT is quite impressive. I've seen numbers as low as 4.3 seconds for 0-60 but these articles are from months ago. I still can't find anything "official."

To each his own, but I've always found mustangs to be "boring" due to their high popularity (caused by the price range of the base model).

I'm sure for the track fiends, I'd be a little worried. For driving around town, I still find us Z owners are on top of everything in our class.

Z eliminator 10-26-2010 07:30 AM

Quikist 370 Z with bolt on's is Jnaut 12.68. on street tire. 6 MT. He currently is building a rear mounted turbo for his car.
As for fast 350 z im building a 4.2 stroker with wolf 850 ttbb's this winter It should run low 9's.

IDZRVIT 10-26-2010 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 781799)
Some cars will just go forever. I remember seeing a thread somewhere of a BMW 3 series that went 50,000 miles without an oil change. They cleaned the thing out and it was fine. :icon18:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 781802)
We had a focus come in with the OEM filter at 14K on the odometer once, lol. Factory fill. My customer traded it in. Ran great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 781806)
Routine maintenance is overrated. :rofl2:

;)

My '02 Spectra only gets an (dino) oil change when I can't remember when the last one was done. It works better than most Z's in this forum.:eek:

rj45 10-26-2010 08:29 AM

I agree with ImportConvert. IME, American cars' drive-trains are tough. My '87 GT had 50K miles when I got rid of it...not a ton of miles, but enough. I didn't abuse the car, but it was well used. The motor never missed a beat. The trans held up well, too. Eventually, the third gear syncro became a bit balky, but it still shifted.

These days, there are few (if any) sacrifices when buying American. Overall quality/fit-and-finish is very competitive. I look forward to seeing what GM does with the C7 Corvette. If they give it nicer seats and interior materials, and a bit more solid feel, it will truly be a world class sports car.

ImportConvert 10-26-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 781914)
Quikist 370 Z with bolt on's is Jnaut 12.68. on street tire. 6 MT. He currently is building a rear mounted turbo for his car.
As for fast 350 z im building a 4.2 stroker with wolf 850 ttbb's this winter It should run low 9's.

That's well and good, but we are comparing stock/stock. My friend's civic runs 9's. Noone cares, though. It's got a few bolt-ons here and there. No-longer stock.

Lug 10-26-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by npdabest (Post 781865)
I have to say, the new Mustang GT is quite impressive. I've seen numbers as low as 4.3 seconds for 0-60 but these articles are from months ago. I still can't find anything "official."

Motor Trend's first review got
0-60 - 4.3
1/4 mile - 12.8
60-0 - 105 ft
Skidpad 0.94

shadoquad 10-26-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 781807)
How many Ford GT's were exported to Europe?


Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 781811)
Nine thousand.

Are you sure? Because I thought that
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gwg_CUzB4r...0/over9000.jpg

m4a1mustang 10-26-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 782136)
Are you sure? Because I thought that
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gwg_CUzB4r...0/over9000.jpg

:bowrofl::tup:

ImportConvert 10-26-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 782136)
Are you sure? Because I thought that
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Gwg_CUzB4r...0/over9000.jpg

Show me where production for the Ford GT during the 2 years the "current" iteration was produced totalled more than the # I gave you (not counting test/press cars).

m4a1mustang 10-26-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 782178)
Show me where production for the Ford GT during the 2 years the "current" iteration was produced totalled more than the # I gave you (not counting test/press cars).

:facepalm:

9000, dude. 9000!

ImportConvert 10-26-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 782186)
:facepalm:

9000, dude. 9000!

Or...roughly 200% of the 2-year production volume.

m4a1mustang 10-26-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 782233)
Or...roughly 200% of the 2-year production volume.

:facepalm:

Get with the meme, man.

ImportConvert 10-26-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 782246)
:facepalm:

Get with the meme, man.

Meh, never did the Dragon Ball Z thing. I am one of those rare Americans who isn't trying to assimilate into the Japanese pop culture--regardless of my SN on here, lol

Cell 10-26-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 782268)
Meh, never did the Dragon Ball Z thing. I am one of those rare Americans who isn't trying to assimilate into the Japanese pop culture--regardless of my SN on here, lol

I think the Japanese Manga mentioned over 8000 and not 9000. It was only the american version that said over 9000. So, in a way, it is Americanized.

theDreamer 10-26-2010 01:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBMbD_bWgU

ImportConvert 10-26-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rj45 (Post 781947)
I agree with ImportConvert. IME, American cars' drive-trains are tough. My '87 GT had 50K miles when I got rid of it...not a ton of miles, but enough. I didn't abuse the car, but it was well used. The motor never missed a beat. The trans held up well, too. Eventually, the third gear syncro became a bit balky, but it still shifted.

These days, there are few (if any) sacrifices when buying American. Overall quality/fit-and-finish is very competitive. I look forward to seeing what GM does with the C7 Corvette. If they give it nicer seats and interior materials, and a bit more solid feel, it will truly be a world class sports car.

Corvette Reliability:
2009 Chevrolet Corvette Reliability - MSN Autos

Mustang Reliability:
2009 Ford Mustang Reliability - MSN Autos


350Z Reliability (370 not available):
2008 Nissan 350Z Reliability - MSN Autos

Moral of the story? Pick your ride based on what you like, they are all about the same mechanically, when it comes to reliability. Some may want suede door inserts, some may want 500+bhp. Want both? Buy a high-end porsche or get a lambo/ferrari/AMG/ or ///M5 or something, but don't expect to pay $40-65K like you would for a 370Z-Z06.

Endgame 10-26-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 782268)
Meh, never did the Dragon Ball Z thing. I am one of those rare Americans who isn't trying to assimilate into the Japanese pop culture--regardless of my SN on here, lol

Don't hate!

wolf370z 10-27-2010 02:30 PM

Yeah maybe American cars from 15 years ago were outdated, crappy, and unreliable (obviously).

Nowadays, however, American cars (like the Mustang and many others) are just as reliable or even more reliable and affordable than their European/Japanese counterparts. Also the amount of performance you get from an American car will always trump over their imported compeition (dollar per dollar).

Anyone who disregards these realities are doing nothing but spreading ignorance. All the import fanboys that just can't believe that American cars can look, better handle better, get faster lap times, and make much more power for equal or lesser value, need to wake up and smell the 21st century.

370Z_Fan 10-27-2010 08:03 PM

Here you go:
 
Car reliability, most reliable cars

370Zsteve 10-27-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rj45 (Post 781947)
I agree with ImportConvert. IME, American cars' drive-trains are tough.

That's true of every American ca/truck I've ever owned. The rest of the vehicle, however, has sucked a$$ in terms of reliability.

rj45 10-28-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 784750)
The rest of the vehicle, however, has sucked a$$ in terms of reliability.

In many cases, that's true. Although, my '87 GT was fully functioning when I sold it. The power locks/windows, wipers, hvac, etc. all worked from day one. Though a bit of a rattle trap, no interior parts fell off into my lap. I'm not rough with my things, so that probably helped a little.

The car certainly could have been built/finished better...no argument there. However, today's American cars have better build quality, reliability and rigidity than their ancestors. I have no qualms about buying American, today.

ImportConvert 10-28-2010 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rj45 (Post 785377)
In many cases, that's true. Although, my '87 GT was fully functioning when I sold it. The power locks/windows, wipers, hvac, etc. all worked from day one. Though a bit of a rattle trap, no interior parts fell off into my lap. I'm not rough with my things, so that probably helped a little.

The car certainly could have been built/finished better...no argument there. However, today's American cars have better build quality, reliability and rigidity than their ancestors. I have no qualms about buying American, today.

My 88GT was in great shape when I bought/got rid of it. Everything worked, except the fox-lamps would over-load the circuit (later corrected by Ford in '93). Windows, everything. Was impressed! The interior was also crack-free, etc. Looked mint. Had lots of miles, etc.

Educ8r 10-29-2010 02:26 PM

You better believe it! Love it!!!

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 781774)
The new auto in the 5.0 is a lot like the 370Zs... it's really freaking quick.


Educ8r 10-29-2010 02:29 PM

Spend some time reading through the threads.

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Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 781731)
I know my comment sounds sorta ignorant but.....dont american cars have alot of problems? Japanese cars are so reliable, Im pretty sure our Zs can hit 100k without any problems. But American cars, as well as european cars, tends to give so much problem for the long term use. And I personally think American cars doesnt look as nice as other cars. This is why I wouldnt want to own a American made car. And again, this is my personal opinon and based on my experience. No offence to any American car owners ;)


citrejo 04-21-2011 02:00 PM

I was actually in the Market for the 5.0 Mustang and was in love with the horsepower and the interior of the car. I test drove the car and was very impressed with the power.

But I was fortunate enough to visit my local Nissan dealership; once I laid eyes on the Rays Wheel I fell in love with the car. In the end the styling of the 370Z is far better then that of Mustang. Plus count the number of mustangs you see on the road and count the number of 370z you see in a day, and you will see the vast difference. The Z turns heads by it looks, the Mustang you have to make a lot of noise to do so. If weren't for the 370Z I would be a proud Mustang owner.

m4a1mustang 04-21-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by citrejo (Post 1066395)
I was actually in the Market for the 5.0 Mustang and was in love with the horsepower and the interior of the car. I test drove the car and was very impressed with the power.

But I was fortunate enough to visit my local Nissan dealership; once I laid eyes on the Rays Wheel I fell in love with the car. In the end the styling of the 370Z is far better then that of Mustang. Plus count the number of mustangs you see on the road and count the number of 370z you see in a day, and you will see the vast difference. The Z turns heads by it looks, the Mustang you have to make a lot of noise to do so. If weren't for the 370Z I would be a proud Mustang owner.

Hope you enjoy your new Z. :tup:

Honestly you can't go wrong with either car.

m4a1mustang 04-21-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1066476)
the 5.0L is not really a muscle car any more ! it handles way to good to be a muscle car. haha

A lot of people forget that the Mustang never was a muscle car. It was a pony car where handling was important. It kind of lost its way for a while but it started to come around with the 2005s and now it's back with the 2010+ chassis.

The GTOs and Chevelles were the real muscle cars back then.

mikeSS 04-21-2011 02:39 PM

the 5.0L is not really a muscle car any more ! it handles way to good to be a muscle car. haha

mikeSS 04-21-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1066483)
A lot of people forget that the Mustang never was a muscle car. It was a pony car where handling was important. It kind of lost its way for a while but it started to come around with the 2005s and now it's back with the 2010+ chassis.

The GTOs and Chevelles were the real muscle cars back then.

ya thats true.

m4a1mustang 04-21-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1066483)
A lot of people forget that the Mustang never was a muscle car. It was a pony car where handling was important. It kind of lost its way for a while but it started to come around with the 2005s and now it's back with the 2010+ chassis.

The GTOs and Chevelles were the real muscle cars back then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1066491)
the 5.0L is not really a muscle car any more ! it handles way to good to be a muscle car. haha

Holy crap... it's like... I quoted a post you made in the future. :bowrofl:

shadoquad 04-21-2011 02:42 PM

Steve, I think you're forgetting the "Live Rear Axle". Therefore, all your points are moot.

:rofl2:

mikeSS 04-21-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1066496)
Holy crap... it's like... I quoted a post you made in the future. :bowrofl:

i did deleted it and then posted it again because i was about to add something to it. but you quoted me so dam fast lol

GZ3 04-21-2011 02:44 PM

am suprised how well this car does around turns!

m4a1mustang 04-21-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1066502)
i did deleted it and then posted it again because i was about to add something to it. but you quoted me so dam fast lol

I quote the crap out of people. :bowrofl:

mikeSS 04-21-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1066510)
am suprised how well this car does around turns!

yes it can compete with a bmw M3

m4a1mustang 04-21-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1066510)
am suprised how well this car does around turns!

You should drive one of the Brembo equipped cars. :stirthepot:

The regular ones are pretty nice but throw in some stiffer springs/shocks, GT500 control arms, and PZero summer rubber and it's pretty much the same as the 370. :yum:


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