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Shyne 09-07-2010 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 711642)
That's awesome! I will have to look into it, though down the road I am going to get the Steeda CAI and SCT Tune so it's probably a moot point. But that's awesome that Ford did that for him.

I wish Nissan gave us that kind of support.
if u saw the numbers that came out with ford racing parts, the filter/muffler kit/tune, it states 16 hp/8tq, but made 60 lb-ft at 1500 with 93 octane, and elminates the skip shift. looks like the non-racers like the kit cause of the extra enjoyability with the torque and the warranty being intact.

Pushing_Tin 09-07-2010 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 711559)
i don't understand this trade. the z has the better handling, more advanced suspension, better interior, and the more exclusive more exotic look to it, compared to the dime a dozen mustang. the z is more reliable than the mustang. the z also holds its value better than the mustang in terms of depreciation. the mustang has the more powerful engine and straight line acceleration, but how much money did you lose on the trade in and the price of the new car? you could have bought a supercharger for the z which would make the z match or exceed the straight line acceleration of the mustang, which i believe is the only reason why anyone would trade a z for a mustang.
Are you as annoying in real life as you are here? Jesus, we all have different tastes, it would be a boring world if we all liked the same thing. For me a Mustang would be much more practical day to day for hauling groceries, friends and family etc. All for the same or better performance and gas mileage as the Z. There are some superficial and aesthetic things I don't like about this current model, or I too would own one. Just be happy for the guy who has been a valuable member here. It's not like he traded the Z in for a 4 cylinder Camry!

PapoZalsa 09-07-2010 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 711565)
You are set in your ways, so I will just leave you to wonder. No point in trying to explain my reasoning to you. All that matters is I'm happy.

I got what I wanted out of the Z and now I'm enjoying this one. So let's just all be happy because we're all happy, right? :hello:
Even having the Z, you was or were a Mustang fanatic. So you got what u wanted, screw everyone else. I'm still going to give you $hit, especially on Zday! :tup:

Pharmacist 09-07-2010 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 711769)
Are you as annoying in real life as you are here? Jesus, we all have different tastes, it would be a boring world if we all liked the same thing. For me a Mustang would be much more practical day to day for hauling groceries, friends and family etc. All for the same or better performance and gas mileage as the Z. There are some superficial and aesthetic things I don't like about this current model, or I too would own one. Just be happy for the guy who has been a valuable member here. It's not like he traded the Z in for a 4 cylinder Camry!
glad i'm not his friend or your family, so he won't shove me in that cramped rear seat of the mustang :eekdance:

well, congrats to him. hope he enjoys his new toy. btw, don't be surprised if people traded the z for camrys. many times people grow up, get married, have kids, and if they can't afford to have 2 cars, they trade the sports car for a sedan or van. why do you think i bought the z so quickly soon after graduation while i'm still single?

Pushing_Tin 09-08-2010 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 711837)
glad i'm not his friend or your family, so he won't shove me in that cramped rear seat of the mustang :eekdance:

well, congrats to him. hope he enjoys his new toy. btw, don't be surprised if people traded the z for camrys. many times people grow up, get married, have kids, and if they can't afford to have 2 cars, they trade the sports car for a sedan or van. why do you think i bought the z so quickly soon after graduation while i'm still single?
Well it beats walking! I'm glad you realize that you are lucky to have a car most people envy and could never afford. Go take a look at a new Mustang with an open mind and you might actually find some things to like. :tup:

mattjk 09-08-2010 02:48 AM
new 5.0 is really impressive! Congrats on the purchase!

Vegitto-kun 09-08-2010 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 711559)
i don't understand this trade. the z has the better handling, more advanced suspension, better interior, and the more exclusive more exotic look to it, compared to the dime a dozen mustang. the z is more reliable than the mustang. the z also holds its value better than the mustang in terms of depreciation. the mustang has the more powerful engine and straight line acceleration, but how much money did you lose on the trade in and the price of the new car? you could have bought a supercharger for the z which would make the z match or exceed the straight line acceleration of the mustang, which i believe is the only reason why anyone would trade a z for a mustang.
on reason

Its a ******* bigass mustang.

The looks alone make me want to get it.

that huge *** engine.

that mustang just reeks of win and badass.

but my opinion mostly hs to do with them not being sold here and them being ALOT more exclusive than the Z.

Lemers 09-08-2010 07:55 AM
I'll just keep my z and when the miles get up there and the engine starts to go. Then I'll think about putting in the less expensive but more powerful 5.0.

Really by the time that happens there will be a much more powerful engine availible out there.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 711750)
i'll see if the local ford stealership will let me test drive one, just to see what all the hype is about.
If you can go about it with an open mind you'll like it. Test a car with the Brembo package and 3.55 or 3.73 gear, though.

The Brembo brake Mustangs stop quicker than the Z. Braking power is insane on this car. Handling is actually pretty close to the Z. The Z feels a lot softer than the Mustang and has much more understeer. The Mustang has a MUCH better balance but is not as precise or direct as the Z.

Basically, both cars achieve nearly identical results in handling and braking. They just go about it a little differently.

FuszNissan 09-08-2010 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 711737)
i do! i plan on getting a supercharger! 515 hp!
:yum: :driving:
If you want tq, get some TT's!

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 712160)
If you want tq, get some TT's!
:iagree:

Torque is where it's at. 1000 RPM in 4th gear? No problemo! :icon18:

Endgame 09-08-2010 08:35 AM
If you would have picked up the Boss, I would have said: HI FIVE!! FREAKIN SICK!!!


Instead, I will say: Cool Stang!

Either way, go kick some Camaro's butts!

Vegitto-kun 09-08-2010 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 712129)
If you can go about it with an open mind you'll like it. Test a car with the Brembo package and 3.55 or 3.73 gear, though.

The Brembo brake Mustangs stop quicker than the Z. Braking power is insane on this car. Handling is actually pretty close to the Z. The Z feels a lot softer than the Mustang and has much more understeer. The Mustang has a MUCH better balance but is not as precise or direct as the Z.

Basically, both cars achieve nearly identical results in handling and braking. They just go about it a little differently.
Stop making me want to go to america and import one myself. :roflpuke2:

Though I for some reason would rather have a camaro

theDreamer 09-08-2010 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 712167)
Stop making me want to go to america and import one myself. :roflpuke2:

Though I for some reason would rather have a camaro
Maybe if Ford never brought the 5.0 out the Camaro would be a nice choice, but never in a million years is it a better choice anymore.
The Mustang beats it 99/100 times, and with the Boss we see it still has room to grow.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 712163)
If you would have picked up the Boss, I would have said: HI FIVE!! FREAKIN SICK!!!


Instead, I will say: Cool Stang!

Either way, go kick some Camaro's butts!
We'll see where I'm at next year. My current plan is to pick up a 370Z Roadster next year to go alongside my Mustang, but that could all change. :icon17:

The Boss is going to be an absolute world-beater, there's no doubt about that.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 712173)
Maybe if Ford never brought the 5.0 out the Camaro would be a nice choice, but never in a million years is it a better choice anymore.
The Mustang beats it 99/100 times, and with the Boss we see it still has room to grow.
The Camaro is a POS. :tup:

FuszNissan 09-08-2010 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 712182)
The Camaro and the challenger are POS. :tup:
fixed

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 712195)
fixed
:tup:

theDreamer 09-08-2010 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 712195)
fixed
:bowrofl:
I like the styling of the challenger, but it is such a huge boat (bigger than the Camaro) that it makes me sad.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 712204)
:bowrofl:
I like the styling of the challenger, but it is such a huge boat (bigger than the Camaro) that it makes me sad.
It's enormous! 4200 lbs. It would be pretty sweet if it didn't share the 300/charger platform and lost 500 lbs. :tup:

FuszNissan 09-08-2010 09:13 AM
Or if it had the viper engine to help push it's fat ***.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 712232)
Or if it had the viper engine to help push it's fat ***.
And some anti-gravity device to help it turn and stop. :tup:

GZ3 09-08-2010 09:21 AM
so I test drove a 5.0 yesterday, and other than the TQ(AWESOME!), i was not impressed or blown away as other have been gasing it up to be. I will say this is the first respectable pony car since the ol school era. but it did not feel so much OMGness faster than my Z, infact at highway speeds it felt the same, and it def felt slower than my C6. I still say that motor trend glorious stock run of 12.7 was inflated bologna, especially after driving it.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 712246)
so I test drove a 5.0 yesterday, and other than the TQ(AWESOME!), i was not impressed or blown away as other have been gasing it up to be. I will say this is the first respectable pony car since the ol school era. but it did not feel so much OMGness faster than my Z, infact at highway speeds it felt the same, and it def felt slower than my C6. I still say that motor trend glorious stock run of 12.7 was inflated bologna, especially after driving it.
There have been a few owners running those times with 3.73s stock.

Most guys with CAI + Tune and exhaust are running low 12s.

GZ3 09-08-2010 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 712254)
There have been a few owners running those times with 3.73s stock.

Most guys with CAI + Tune and exhaust are running low 12s.
oh dont get me wrong...i dont wanna run into one from a dead stop...no sir....how does your highway speed feels in comparison

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 712260)
oh dont get me wrong...i dont wanna run into one from a dead stop...no sir....how does your highway speed feels in comparison
Pulls harder than the Z on the highway for sure, but like you said, it's not a crazy difference. The big differences are in the first few gears. The Z is pretty fast when it's already moving. :tup:

I would still expect my Mustang to pull on my Z pretty good from a highway roll, though. Nothing crazy like it would from a stop, but I think you'd have to be at like a 100+ roll for the Z and it's lighter weight and better drag numbers to even the fight out.

But, FWIW, I try not to compare the two cars. They are vastly different and I love them both for what they are. :tup:

Red370 09-08-2010 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 712246)
so I test drove a 5.0 yesterday, and other than the TQ(AWESOME!), i was not impressed or blown away as other have been gasing it up to be. I will say this is the first respectable pony car since the ol school era. but it did not feel so much OMGness faster than my Z, infact at highway speeds it felt the same, and it def felt slower than my C6. I still say that motor trend glorious stock run of 12.7 was inflated bologna, especially after driving it.
the one you drove probably had the stock 3.31 gears, the 3.55s/3.73's would add quite a bit to the low end grunt, and yeah, guys are posting mid to high 12's in stock trim with the 3.73 gears, which if installed by yourself, can be had for less than $200:tup:

TongMan 09-08-2010 10:47 AM
Chevrolet wants to challenge the 5.0 Mustang GT with their new Camaro Z28. We'll see how that goes.

theDreamer 09-08-2010 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 712386)
Chevrolet wants to challenge the 5.0 Mustang GT with their new Camaro Z28. We'll see how that goes.
They have been testing the Z28 against a GT500 right now, closed course and everything but some spy shots have been leaked.

shadoquad 09-08-2010 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 712388)
They have been testing the Z28 against a GT500 right now, closed course and everything but some spy shots have been leaked.
Wonder how far they're willing to let it encroach on the Vette in terms of performance and cost.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 712386)
Chevrolet wants to challenge the 5.0 Mustang GT with their new Camaro Z28. We'll see how that goes.
Why? The Z28 is supercharged. :shakes head:

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 712394)
Wonder how far they're willing to let it encroach on the Vette in terms of performance and cost.
It doesn't matter. GM will make the same mistakes it's always made and the Camaro will die off once again.

shadoquad 09-08-2010 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 712399)
It doesn't matter. GM will make the same mistakes it's always made and the Camaro will die off once again.
Although, you have to admit, the Camaro raised the bar enough for Ford to get off its duff and finally make the Stang a contender again.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 712414)
Although, you have to admit, the Camaro raised the bar enough for Ford to get off its duff and finally make the Stang a contender again.
Ford was planning on it all along. They don't react to anything GM/Camaro does. They do what they do and it works.

shadoquad 09-08-2010 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 712429)
Ford was planning on it all along. They don't react to anything GM/Camaro does. They do what they do and it works.
:ugh2:

That's a bit ridiculous. It's like saying that Ferrari doesn't react to what Lambo or Porsche are up to.

They're direct competitors, they react to each other.

theDreamer 09-08-2010 11:27 AM
The thing was the Camaro launched in what? Mid-2009
Ford already had the 5.0 under development way before, I think the only decision Ford had to pick was what year they wanted to launch it in.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 712436)
:ugh2:

That's a bit ridiculous. It's like saying that Ferrari doesn't react to what Lambo or Porsche are up to.

They're direct competitors, they react to each other.
Dude, you just earned another whooping at the next meet.

shadoquad 09-08-2010 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 712440)
The thing was the Camaro launched in what? Mid-2009
Ford already had the 5.0 under development way before, I think the only decision Ford had to pick was what year they wanted to launch it in.
So, Ford had no idea that Chevy was developing the Camaro while they were developing the '11 Mustang? Maybe I'm too much a skeptic at heart, but I don't buy it, guys.

m4a1mustang 09-08-2010 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 712442)
So, Ford had no idea that Chevy was developing the Camaro while they were developing the '11 Mustang? Maybe I'm too much a skeptic at heart, but I don't buy it, guys.
You might not buy that, but you will buy my intakes. Or else.

FuszNissan 09-08-2010 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 712429)
Ford was planning on it all along. They don't react to anything GM/Camaro does. They do what they do and it works.
They do react, they just do it wrong.
Ford had huge success by going retro with the mustang, so GM/Chrysler tried it and I think they missed the boat.

Camero
Challenger
GTO (this could have been huge, but fell short)


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