Yeah but look where that got you? :rolleyes:

Very true, ***** all upside down :icon14:

2010's were 1/2 way cars. Underpowered but great handlers compared to the 09's. Ford did the handling upgrades in 10, power in 11. Now the 370Z really needs a serious power upgrade in 12 to get back on top.

I think my anger would be overshadowed by the embarrassment of not looking at a single web page on the car before buying it.

F that, then I will be pissed

:iagree: The next Z needs 400 hp or more. Time to step it up!!!

What would you do if you had just bought an F430 then? Go shoot everyone at the factory?:excited:

rofl you're on a roll tonight, man.

well, it's called "modernity". a nascar carburettor engine puts out what, 800hp or so? should we revert back from fuel injection to carburetion? your first point, i won't contest. the second one, i question. i'm not saying the mustang will be a turd on the track. it'll probably handle good. but i see a lot of people claiming it will own the z or outhandle the z or whatever, but i havent seen anyone post evidence of it. on paper, slalom and skidpad are close to but not as good as the z. i haven't seen any head to head comparisons or laptimes that show a mustang besting a z. i remember top gear had a roush mustang power lap that was almost as good as the z but a fraction slower. that's the closest to a comparison test i've seen. you're not really suggesting a mustang would rival a cayman s or lotus exige, are you?

lol! after watching the newest top gear, i'd say that doesn't suck 1% as bad as the guy who bought the ferrary f430 and didn't wait for the 458 italia!

I don't think anyone's claimed it would outhandle the Z, but from what I've read, it's supposedly not far behind in that department. And it's definitely more powerful, more torquey in the low rev ranges. The rumor is that it's nearly as fast as an M3.

That Roush had a great sound. Sooo nice!

:rofl2: lol thats what I was saying :rofl2:


P.S A few of us in this convo have taken off for the night! Peace out!

i think before any talk of more power or engine upgrades nissan should start by adding a damn OIL COOLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a 400 hp z that will shut down after 30 seconds on the track :shakes head:

:iagree:

At the very least the oil cooler should have been part of the Sport package!!!