2010 370Z Touring + Sport 6MT

Invoice: $35835

2011 Mustang GT Premium Coupe 6MT Options: HID, Security, 3.73, Brembo Brake Package

Invoice: $34335

The Mustang is already $1500 cheaper than the 370Z. How will lowering the Z's weight by 300lbs be possible while maintaining the same price range? Nissan simply doesn't have a great track record at controlling rising costs, just look at the cost from a 350z to a 370z. Any substantial increase to the price of a 370Z puts it into the Corvette territory where it will be dominated...hands down.

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yea 5.0, i sat and drove, and being the in the mustang felt right, it was what i wanted, the extra room, the trunk space, better site in the mirrors, and the performance, and much more. i picked it up fully loaded, except nav and glass roof, and im loving every minute of it.

Even the dealer i bought from also sells nissans, and the sales rep also had a 350z, and i told him its between a 370z and the 5.0 and he said, 5.0 is more car for the price, and its what you want. Ford really stepped it up, and its ahead of the 370z.

Someone needs to read up on the new 5.0. This engine is virtually indistinguishable from the 370Z's....well except the two extra pistons.

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I was not suggesting lowering the weight, but boosting the power to where it's effect would be similar to the 'stangs given their repective weights. Weight is where the Z already has the advantage. As far as costs, the 370Z went up well less than a thousand dollars in all catagories compared to the 2008 350Z.

Do you mind me asking where you picked it up from as the dealer I got my Z from also sells Fords?

:iagree:Thanks for the validation. Ford didn't develope a new engine they just copied an existing one and made it bigger

route 23 automall in butler, had like 3 dealers looking at 5.0's with brembo package, and found one comin in from there, and had one of the sales rep, keep me in the loop of when it was coming in, called me on a friday afternoon, saying it came in this morning, and by saturday afternoon, it was in my garage.

I got mine in Flemington on Rt. 202/31

cool, i was really patient, since i was lookin at a new vehicle since last summer, almost bought a 370z, but wanted to see if those 5.0 coyote rumors were true. And im very glad i did wait.

The Mustang really is a solid car and my old Stang never gave me any problems ever. I'm happy that I went with the Z, but I certainly don't think I would of made a bad descsion if I had bought a Mustang instead.

I find it sad how many people suddenly value their automobiles less as faster / better performing ones come out. It’s as if the only important aspect of a car is how fast it goes from point A to point B. This kind of thinking completely neglects the sort of things which make cars truly great and enjoyable to drive. Unfortunately, impressing friends, girlfriends, etc takes precedents over driving dynamics, driver feedback, and the joy of driving a thoroughly great engineered “driver’s car” amongst a host of other important aspects. For example, recently I read this great comparative test between the Corvette Grand Sport, Lotus Evora and Porsche Cayman S. To sum up the results obviously the Corvette has a lot more power and thus runs faster in a straight line.

It even ran the fastest time around the track (Button Willow Raceway Park) but not because it was the best handling car, but because it was able to power down the straights faster. So the Corvette is faster meaning it’s the best right? Sadly, this is how most (American’s at least) think and probably the reason why imports are generally so much better. But anyway the Porsche wins by virtue of being the best over all sports cars and I couldn’t agree more. If my budget was say 51-53k I’d most likely buy a base Porsche Cayman, obviously not the fastest car but I bet I’d have more fun driving it vs. practically any other car in that price range. I wouldn’t be dwelling over how much faster a 30k Mustang GT is that’s for sure because it doesn't matter.

Yes the VQ is pretty much max out and it is pretty unrefined. It's defiantly not the best motor out there by a long shot. And it could defiantly use a good dose of Torque and that Torque needs to begin sooner in the RPM range. Believe it or not the 370z isn't perfect hence the reason I'm holding off to see what happens within the next yr or so.

Try reading more often. I can't pin point exactly where I've read about the topic because I read so much but if you try doing a bit of research I'm al most certain you'll run into it. If I recall I’ll post the source but it really shouldn’t be so hard to believe regardless. The VQ is pretty unrefined / low on torque, the limited slip is sub par and there are issues with the oil over heating, etc. It might be a tough pill for you to swallow but the facts are the facts. Lastly, if you don't think the VQ could use some work try driving a few other cars. But don't drive a new Boxter / Cayman S because you'll walk away really depressed. I'm not saying it's a POS or anything but being in denial doesn't help improve anything. You live and learn.

No, I am talking about the quote in bold.
You have zero information on any of this, the reason I know so is because I read more of this BS information everyday than I care to.

On the note of the high oil, LSD, etc. Well...duh, everyone on here knows that, but the fact remains that it is "good enough" for street use. You want to track this car or start throwing on forced induction, of course you are going to need to upgrade those components, you will have on any car in the 30k price range.