2012 Camaro Z28
 

6.2 liter V8 Supercharged 550+ HP


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Hmmm.....

Wow, that is going to be a beast.

Pretty insane, but then again I'm betting the price will be as well. I really hate the huge range in power these newer American sports cars have. I mean, it's been this way for a while, but it seems like it is getting even worse. They might as well make a 4-cylinder Camaro and a 6-cylinder 'Vette while they are at it.

^yeah im gonna guess what starting at maybe 48K or something? how much is a GT500 like 45-46? still damn good for 550 hp and 0-60 in maybe 4.2ish or something

my god that thing is beastly... wonder how much its gonna cost.. my guess, 50k+

Just like the GT500, you too can spend $50k on a car that looks exactly like the $20k version to 99 out of 100 people :icon17:

The body is already a beast...


The GT500 was closed to $75K a few years back with the market value added to it.

didn't the SS used to be one level up from the z28?

yeah but MSRP was mid to high 40's right? things have changed in the last few years.. i know there will always be mark ups on the first of any hot car but the market isnt the same as it was i think one of these could be had for MSRP cash in hand.. hell chey is giving 3K and 5K factory rebates on ZR1's now

"I know this has been discussed over and over again but all the ignorance recently has forced me to bring up again why the Camaro Z28 has throughout the F-bodies reign has been the top Camaro…

The Z28 was produced for 31 years to the SS’s 13 (Z28 3 more years if you count the IROC-Z’s)

The 1st gen Z28 was the race car version of the Camaro, The SS was the fully loaded street cruiser……The Z28 would out handle and out run an SS…..

Where was the SS from 1973 to 1995?...man how many years is it not produced and the Z28 was still running around

While Chevy claimed there to be a huge difference in performance during the 4th gen the SS was merely a body refreshment. If anything this was the time in the Camaros history where things went backwards….But 7 years of confusion vs over 20 years of the Z28 being the top model is hardly something for Chevrolet to continue to the 5th gen.

I’d agree that for some the SS may be the cooler car. It most always (especially in the 4th gen) came fully loaded with a high HP motor. However the Z28 was always the straight race car. For the guys here who want the stripped down, no goodies all performance, Z28 was your car.

They don’t call the top PERFORMING Corvette the Corvette SS….that’s blasphemy…Its been the Z car….the ZR1 or Z06

Furthermore the SS name has been slapped on everything from FWD cars to 6 cylinder Impalas…

This has to be said….GM knows this….I’m sick of people (newbies) getting their panties in a wad every time they see the Z28 posted above the SS.

I’m not trying to hate on the SS nameplate or anyone’s car. I personally plan on buying a MIDLEVEL SS because I want more comfort items and a convertible vs a hardcore race car. I don’t really want a 500hp car, nor do I want to pay today high premium for one these days.

Any Chevrolet can be an SS... Only a Camaro can be a Z/28!"

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423304

No it was one level down if I recall............

EDIT: hmm...I guess Frost summed it up a bit better

:D

Wasn't the $75k Shelby actually the KR and the the 500GT?

If GM can offer a supercharged Camaro in the same lineup with the Corvette and ZR1, I don't see why Nissan can't offer a turbocharged version of the Z along with the flagship GTR.

The Z is BAAADLLYYY losing the hp wars these days.

They better upgrade the interior... keep the 60's style out of the interior!!!!!

Most of the articles that were written about the demise (discontinuation) of the camaro/firebird in 2002 was because the purchasers kept wanting more and more out of the car, more hp, better looks, until finally, it was just a 4-seat corvette. Assuming that's true, it seems like they are trading awfully close to the mistake of the past.

Two things will be changed with the interior.

Jack and Shit.

:bowrofl:

no matter how fast these new mustangs and camaros, the Z looks way better

Somethings always gonna come out newer and faster. Either be happy with what you got or spend yourself to death trying to buy the newest and fastest.

I'll take an 87 IROC-Z again, this time with TTops though

I'd take a Z with a targa top

One of these days, I WILL own an 80's IROC :cool:

Better get it soon before the restoration crowd starts to set it's eyes on '80s cars and the prices of unrestored ones goes through the roof

This car has similar specs to the CTS-V which retails for around 75,000ish. That would be one over-priced camaro!

The car was discontinued for slow sales. Sales were slow because GM didn't redesign the car in 10 years. I think there was some drama around what platform the next gen would ride on in the late 90's that pushed out the redesign so long that they decided to stop production.

So unless we see the exact some body style in 2019, I don't see the parallels.

Dude I always wanted an 87 IROC, and damn it I went out and bought one my senior year of highschool. When I wasn't DDing my Stang' I was an Italian Retard Out Cruising, and it felt good.



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Didn't redesign the car for 10 years?

http://home.grandecom.net/~chughes/ag/pics/ss97ta1.jpg
97 trans am

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0001_large.jpg
98 trans am

Oh, and let's not forget the completely different engine, going from iron to aluminum. Your argument is dumb and invalid.

This I actually might like. :)

god that car looked awful, thing has nostrils like Djimon Hounsou.

http://www.newsrescue.com/wp-content...on_hounsou.jpg

Maybe you don't understand the difference between minor face lifts and a redesign.. :confused:

Mustang 2004 versus Mustang 2005. Now that is a redesign..

Mustang 1998 versus Mustang 1999. Face lift.

The 4th gen F-bodies went through a slow evolution over their run, but nothing more. Even your pictures that you post has the 2nd looking like the first with a body kit.

Maybe a firehawk is more your style? two less nostrils but same ram air

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0040_large.jpg

I still think Trans Ams look awesome in that "oh my God it's so ugly it looks awesome" kind of way. :D

If you think the difference between those cars is a facelift, we just have completely different eyes. Not to mention (again) the completely different engine. Not like what happened in the middle of the 350z's run, I mean a huge change in engines. :ugh2:

That Bra, is like the a car cover for the Z?
Its Big and Bloated.

An engine and body work doesn't really constitute a redesign, though.

To me, a redesign = new chassis.

I can see this logic, BUT what does that mean for new cars, such as the challenger that ride on a chassis that was already in use in other cars for several years? Is the challenger just a charger/magnum/300 with a body kit?

No, that logic doesn't work because it's a different model.

Plus, a lot of cars share the same base platforms but much of the chassis is still exclusive to that particular model. You can't just take a Charger and slap a Challenger body on it. Though I am sure you know that. ;)

:gasp: You mean cars aren't like RC cars and I can't just hoist the shell off one and slap on another? How dare you.

Just a friendly argument, but it seems hard for me to buy into:
- A redesign constitutes a changed chassis
- But a new car can use an old chassis, and that's cool.

In fact, by what you're saying, did the camaro/firebird ever get a redesign? Up until the latest version, they were all f-bodies.

Edit: and as far as it not counting because it's not the same model, the firebird and camaro were different models, but talk about only a couple minor differences. You couldn't even tell what car you were in from the inside.