New Mustang 5.0L confirmed HP

theDreamer

Sorry, I do not believe a turbo 4 banger is good at all. One reason I stepped away from the Evo in the end. Also, from the test drives I did and research, the Evo really loses power above 90MPH, the Mustang will continue into the 130 just like the Z. The Mustang 5.0L already has 400 horsepower, and the double clutch is nice but it is still slow on the shifts.

The Mustang currently is just below 3,500 pounds for the base GT, about 275 over the base 370z. Considering the other American muscle cars are in excess of 4,000 pounds I would say the Mustang is doing something right.

The Porsche line is 3,000 or less actually, the BMW is around 3,300 so it is on par with what the base 370z has. Then again the stock BMW has leather seats and other "luxury" features you only get in the Touring Z and the touring Z is above 3,300 (I believe around 3,400 actually). Nissan could have shed some weight, but cost would have increased and with the increase in safety standards it pushes weight up. Though not really sure cost would increase by 10,000USD but for a hundred pounds of weight we might pay an extra 500 or 1,000USD. I am sure many here would have been happy with that trade off.

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Pharmacist

the evo is rather fast in a straight line. good acceleration with turbos. and the awd give it a lot of traction. still, you're thinking like a typical american, only thinking about straight line performance. i'm talking about track performance. the evo is a formidable track car, and the very advanced awd system gives it remarkable cornering ability.

where do you get your weight figures for porsche? the cayman s is about 3150, and even the base cayman is over 3000 that is without the limited slip diff, bigger wheels and tires, interior luxuries and amenities etc....
a stripped down base carrera with manual gearbox is 3400. the 135i I believe is at least 3500 for a base model without options.

the 370z touring w/o sport or nav is listed as 3230 for manual and 3260 for auto on nissan website. So the z isn't really all that heavy compared to competition. it weights just about right.

theDreamer

1) The base Z is 3230, the touring Z is closer to 3300.
2) The Porsche numbers are directly from Porsche themselves, same as Nissan numbers. The Z is a great car do not get me wrong, but others have found ways to lighten their 2 seat cars. A base 135i is closer to 3400, actually 3373.
3) I am talking about track racing not straight line racing. Hate to break it to you, but I hate straight line racing. The Evo AWD is nice and will help in the corners, but the Mustang has Torque and top end that the Evo lacks for the track. Now the Evo with a few mods is very quick and opens up nicely, but it still lacks top end power.
4) Again, a 4 banger turbo is not very good in my mind. Lets slap a quality turbo on a Z or Mustang and see what happens. Plus the Evo is an econo car with a turbo.

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