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Wife wanted to test drive one of these, so we took a trip out to the dealership Saturday. Obviously opted for the GT trim. I have to say my initial

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Wife wanted to test drive one of these, so we took a trip out to the dealership Saturday. Obviously opted for the GT trim. I have to say my initial impressions were very positive.

Pros:
-Car feels responsive, with boost coming on quickly. Acceleration definitely pushes you back in the seat.
-Layout of the cockpit is solid. Seats were broad and comfortable, without being outstanding, digital package was easy to navigate.
-Suspension in Sport mode was aggressive with very minimal body roll. Steering did not have the same overly light feel present in the Q50 and Q60.
-Brembo BBK definitely gave plenty of stopping power.
-Functional brake vents.

Cons:
-Its a Kia. I'm not saying this to hate on this brand, but it's an expensive car for the Kia badge.
-Car is very heavy! 5148 lbs, and you can definitely feel the weight of it dragging against your early acceleration.
-Not in love with the appearance of it. It's basically a sporty Optima - better stance and brake vents.

I think there will be a lot of drivers that really enjoy this car; my wife certainly did.
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Wife wanted to test drive one of these, so we took a trip out to the dealership Saturday. Obviously opted for the GT trim. I have to say my initial impressions were very positive.

Pros:
-Car feels responsive, with boost coming on quickly. Acceleration definitely pushes you back in the seat.
-Layout of the cockpit is solid. Seats were broad and comfortable, without being outstanding, digital package was easy to navigate.
-Suspension in Sport mode was aggressive with very minimal body roll. Steering did not have the same overly light feel present in the Q50 and Q60.
-Brembo BBK definitely gave plenty of stopping power.
-Functional brake vents.

Cons:
-Its a Kia. I'm not saying this to hate on this brand, but it's an expensive car for the Kia badge.
-Car is very heavy! 5148 lbs, and you can definitely feel the weight of it dragging against your early acceleration.
-Not in love with the appearance of it. It's basically a sporty Optima - better stance and brake vents.

I think there will be a lot of drivers that really enjoy this car; my wife certainly did.
Agree with the pros.. But curb weight is a lil over 3800lbs for RWD n a lol over 4000 for AWD.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Stinger
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Agree with the pros.. But curb weight is a lil over 3800lbs for RWD n a lol over 4000 for AWD.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Stinger
Sorry about that, I was going based off of the sticker inside the door. Should've done more research!
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Sorry about that, I was going based off of the sticker inside the door. Should've done more research!
The sticker is GROSS weight reflects the weight if every passenger was in the car. It's an estimate. Curb weight is the actual weight of the vehicle.
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The sticker is GROSS weight reflects the weight if every passenger was in the car. It's an estimate. Curb weight is the actual weight of the vehicle.
Actually, the sticker is the GVWR, Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
It’s the max load of vehicle, fluids, and payload.
On heavy trucks, it is usually determined by axle rating.
Not sure what the limiting factor is with passenger vehicles.
You can still exceed an axleks limit if you distribute the weight

GVWR - payload = curb weight
Curb weight - fluid = dry weight (which is what a lot of sports car manufacturers like to quote to show off how light their cars are. Because they think their customers are stupid).

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-Its a Kia. I'm not saying this to hate on this brand, but it's an expensive car for the Kia badge.
The same can be said for the Z "brand"...

Why pay $48k for the Nismo when you can get 95% of its performance with the Sport at $32k, or 90% of the Nismo's performance with the base Z at $26k?

At least when you step up in the Stinger levels, you have different engines, transmissions, choice of RWD or AWD and massive brakes. The Z on the other hand uses the same ole' engine and transmission in all trim levels, and upgrade to a useless VLSD.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Nissan or the Z. I love my Z and will continue to for quite a long time. I have no plans on getting rid of it.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I'm getting tired of seeing people say stuff like "oh, it's a Hyundai/Kia"... Who cares?! People are dwelling on crap that happened with these two companies over 20 years ago! Get over it already. It's not 1998 anymore and both Hyundai and Kia have come a long long way since then.

And no JLArson, I'm not directing that last bit towards you. It's just a general thought.
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The same can be said for the Z "brand"...

Why pay $48k for the Nismo when you can get 95% of its performance with the Sport at $32k, or 90% of the Nismo's performance with the base Z at $26k?

At least when you step up in the Stinger levels, you have different engines, transmissions, choice of RWD or AWD and massive brakes. The Z on the other hand uses the same ole' engine and transmission in all trim levels, and upgrade to a useless VLSD.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Nissan or the Z. I love my Z and will continue to for quite a long time. I have no plans on getting rid of it.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that I'm getting tired of seeing people say stuff like "oh, it's a Hyundai/Kia"... Who cares?! People are dwelling on crap that happened with these two companies over 20 years ago! Get over it already. It's not 1998 anymore and both Hyundai and Kia have come a long long way since then.

And no JLArson, I'm not directing that last bit towards you. It's just a general thought.
The Z is still my favorite all round sports car. But it's been around so long. The price should've been long reduced. Same thing with the 86.

The 86 is trying to sell at 33k for a face lift suspension tweaking and recalibration of the ecu. This car in 2018 is $9,000 over its worth.

The Z is perfectly balanced with good power. It can't compete against a mustang GT on track. A stinger could. Its just time to be quiet as a Z owner until Nissan gets the balls to build something up to snuff against today's competition.
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