So if I understand this the original poster was comparing the Kia Stinger to the 370Z.

Stinger is a 4-door sedan vs 2 seat sports coupe.
Stinger GT is $41,500 vs 370z at $31,800

While the Stinger has impressive performance #s. I really don't see these in the same class of vehicle.

True, unless you widen the class to "performance oriented road cars". But your point is well taken.

Here is a clip of it competing with a couple of giants in its category (actually, by price, in a category or two over its head), and doing quite well!

Huh? I'm the origin al.poster. By saying they're passing Nissan you're quick to assume it's a 370z? Did you read anything I've said? A few pages back Z owners were comparing the Z to a Stinger and I had to clarify it's philosophy of use and I don't know HOW MANY TIMES I've made comparisons to the NISSAN MAXIMA what IDIOT is going to compare a turbo charged family car with performance Injected into it with a dedicated sport coupe?
I will applaud the Kia for outperforming many current coupes on paper... that said it's still not a comparison. It just shows it's time for some companies to step up their power or handling game with certain halos such as the 86 for power and the Q60 for handling. For their price points they lag. But they still aren't direct competitors to Kia... yet?

smh.... its fvckin amazing how people read what they wanna read.

Here's the introduction to the stinger long term test. Now the haters can follow and root for Kia to fail. And pray the stinger will be as reliable as a 95 Spectra. Lol.

For the rest of us... We can see how a new entry performance sedan progresses over the next year or two?

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/07/19/...-introduction/

The Stinger cleaned up in that video! Unsurprisingly wiped the floor with the BoatMW in nearly every test.

Not that I'm in the market for a sedan right now, but I'm seeing new V6 Stingers advertised in the mid 33k price range, marked down from 39.3k, from dealers in the West Central (WeCe for you hip kids) FLA market. I'm sure it's the lower trim, bit still the Stinger GT model. Great price for that ride IMO!

Kia Stinger and new Genesis G70 I am starting to look. For I know at sometime I will need an AT and something bigger. Thou the Z is going no place. Just getting at that time of my life I have to think about the next car and maybe the last car.

But I still want to have something that is fun to drive... :driving:

Well for a rwd v6 turbo sedan that does 4.4 or 4.7 (depends on the review) 0 to 60, 33.5k ain't a bad place to start! Kia offers a solid warranty also.

If you want some real world dyno results go to @specialtyz on instagram. The Stinger ain't know joke. Seb is doing some comparisons between the Kia Stinger and the Q60 and the two variants of each. Let's put it this way, the Kia ain't know slouch!!!!

I just find it impressive that a company that made such throw away and boring autos have completely flipped the market!! I never have nor never will have qualms with what Hyundai/Kia os doing. Because at the price you're getting quite a bit of a car for the money.

Bit ironic I get an update to this thread today. Just received in the mail another recall notice for the 2011 kia optima. This time for the airbags/seat belt. Glad I got rid of that dreck long ago.

I came across a muffler delete stinger n it sounded pretty tough. In this vid, it sounds like a race car.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...t-sound-video/

........what races are you watching? :bowrofl:

I dunno.... But I'll take the exhaust sound challenge on you. :icon17::tiphat:

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I still can't get the stigma of early crappy KIa/Hyunday cars and now trying to lift themselves to Lexus levels.

Ian B

Why not? Old crappy Toyota did exactly that.

Only time will tell. A Kia/Hyundai will never be up to par with a Toyota.

Ian B

Again, why not?

If you mean catch up to them, perhaps not.
But don’t rule that out, either.
they are definitely driving the same line that Toyota, Honda, Mazda, and Datsun did, only those marques had a 30 year head start. Just like these Japanese makes did, the Korean twins have done a lot to put their earlier days of “low price, questonable quality” behind them. And based on the strategy they have adopted, I’d say they are closing the gap while the Nippon crowd sits on their laurels.

I didnt think anyone really gave much of a crap about Toyota anyway lmao....same with any of the other Japanese manufacturers. I give the twins their credit and Hyundai/Kia has come quite a way. Especially in the aspects of making solid cars at fair prices. I'd take a new Stinger over the Maxima any day of the week. Or pretty much any other sedan in a similar class/pricing/statistics etcetera

I know, right?! Toyota schmoyota, who cares about the Camry maker anyway?? I'm on the Stinger train!

I've never heard anyone get excited about a Prius lmao...but in all actuality there are a few decent rides that were semi overlooked...especially those turbo Mazda models. But toyota, Honda, Mitsu haven't really produced much to write home about in recent offerings. We have to get out of the stigma that Hyundai/Kia vehicles are complete crap and stop praising these car manufaturers that created something awesome in 1995....

Another champion literary.... This is the idiocy of America's 2 party politics at work in daily life.



Huh? I'm the origin al.poster. By saying they're passing Nissan you're quick to assume it's a 370z? Did you read anything I've said? A few pages back Z owners were comparing the Z to a Stinger and I had to clarify it's philosophy of use and I don't know HOW MANY TIMES I've made comparisons to the NISSAN MAXIMA what IDIOT is going to compare a turbo charged family car with performance Injected into it with a dedicated sport coupe?
I will applaud the Kia for outperforming many current coupes on paper... that said it's still not a comparison. It just shows it's time for some companies to step up their power or handling game with certain halos such as the 86 for power and the Q60 for handling. For their price points they lag. But they still aren't direct competitors to Kia... yet?

smh.... its fvckin amazing how people read what they wanna read.

That's what I didn't get..the post clearly states comletition with other similar cars. You called out the Maxima by name. I think people overlooked what the comparison was about. Lol....I just don't vet all the hate. The Stinger is a solid car for what it is and if I was in the market I would consider one in a heartbeat.

According to the Z forum members. Nissan builds ONE CAR... The 370z. There's no way you can be on a "OTHER VEHICLES" section of the forum and actually be talking about Maxima in the price to performance comparison. Or even make an argument for the Q50 vs Stinger. .
NOPE... not possible. Cuz when you think Nissan. You don't think GTR or maxima or TITAN. or Murano... Nope there's only the Z to compare a 4 door sedan to.

Kia makes ONE GOOD car n you see the brand whores GO FULL RETARD.
Nissan has done so lil to update their product line for any performance competitive vehicle for so long. There's that G70/Stinger/Veloster envy. There's nothing left right now than to chop down the achievements of a young company I n giving the public another OPTION quicker than any other company has in history.

The Z is legendary by name. So is the GTR. BUT HERES THE TRUTH. The Z hasn't been updated enough to have a decent thread on here about the Z since the 2015 Nismo refresh. The Maxima has been updated. Which means It CAN BEcompared to the STINGER. The Z is not worth mentioning. Not just cuz they don't compete car to car.
The Z is technologically so far behind most basic transportation. It's better than the BRZ N can compete against a v61LE camaro in a driver's race.. That's Nissan's place in the world right now. Porsche outpaced the Cayman. No longer a comparison. They not touching comparable v8 muscle cars in the price point. It's not worth comparing to anything at the moment. It's too outdated... Thank God the Z still looks n drives amazing. Thank God it's backed by tales of grandeur from the 70's to the 90's... Otherwise, today... Right now. ... What u really got to talk about in 2018?

Nutn. It still an amazing car despite its dinosaur status.
Ok. Now what? This is THE OTHER VEHICLES SECTION.
Get over the fact other car companies are doing big things

The GTR is heavier fatter slower and less performance oriented in 2018 than between 2008 / 2016. The GTR is a timeless design in one aspect. But needs to lean toward sport more but Nissan of course focused on nicer interior and a plush ride. Then jacked up the Nismo GTR $25K Cuz they added $7000 in parts.

The value perspective has been narrowed n u still can't get android auto n apple car play like the rest of the enthusiast market.

I'm not hating on nissan cuz I hope for a competitive Z. But Nissan can't put anything viable thru the rumor mill to care about a new Z right now. Until they do. Thank you Hyundai for NOT falling into the SNOOZERY of Nissan Mitsubishi n even Toyota. Though Toyota makes enthusiast cars now. The premium for them is laughable. Which will probably be true of the Z4UPRA.

If the stinger was a Nissan Maxima? There'd be a lot of dyck suckin & praise that Nissan finally made the Maxima what it should've been in the 21st century. But. KIA/Hyundai did it. So you cats are aggy.n wanna CLAIM. Me the OP is comparing a 2 seat dedicated sports car to a sedan to appease your anger for Nissan not doing what they should.

Compared to the STINGER. The Q50 chassis lacks as an enthusiast car. The Q50 transmission is a joke by comparison. N price to price. A stinger compares to a Q50 sport though it's red sport fast on the price point ouch. Ok... Get over it.

Rant over.

I've seen 2 Stinger out in the wild now and it really is a nice car..I just don't get all the negativity. If it isn't for you, fine...but you have to give Hyundai some credit. It went from the Pony to this. Does it make them the first and foremost automaker on the planet? Nope. However it really shows over time how they've continued building their brand. Remember when you couldn't beat that Hyundai assurance warranty, it forced other manufacturers to do the same or at least something similar. It's the incentives and the refreshing take on certain vehicles that has boosted them into a mid tier sedan/compact maker. The Genesis coupe is one of the nicest looking cars on the road still and it's quite a few thousand less than certain cars of a similar type. At one point the 350z was still booking at 11 while you could a NEW Genny coupe for a bit more. I don't know man...

To follow up to your post... Kia has sold 10,000 units thus far. Not bad for its segment and being a foreign product.

https://carbuzz.com/news/are-kia-sti...re-the-numbers

Not sure if you heard it. There is an issue with yellow Stingers. Kia offered to repaint, rental, and compensation to those who experienced peeling, chipping and cracking. Would Nissan have done the same?

Not in a million years would Nissan own an issue that cost it money.

Like Kia or not but that's a real stand-up offering. Paint has an issue...you make it right. An inconvenience yes but still the right thing to do. I wish Nissan did that with the 370 paint lol...that crap chips from a hard rain hahahahah

Can you say "Clutch Slave Cylinder"?
:eek:

Lmao! Exactly...

Just watched a 6 month review. It seems the STINGER is having problems with half its color palette. Yellow, Black, Blue and white.

https://youtu.be/bL39d7S0CXE

Before the haters go on a tangent. The Z had the same exact problem on the same exact colors before the first 2013 refresh. Lol. So don't get too hyped. Lol

Welp!!!! Scrap the stinger!!!....I wanted matte black anyway lmao

Wife wanted to test drive one of these, so we took a trip out to the dealership Saturday. Obviously opted for the GT trim. I have to say my initial impressions were very positive.

Pros:
-Car feels responsive, with boost coming on quickly. Acceleration definitely pushes you back in the seat.
-Layout of the cockpit is solid. Seats were broad and comfortable, without being outstanding, digital package was easy to navigate.
-Suspension in Sport mode was aggressive with very minimal body roll. Steering did not have the same overly light feel present in the Q50 and Q60.
-Brembo BBK definitely gave plenty of stopping power.
-Functional brake vents.

Cons:
-Its a Kia. I'm not saying this to hate on this brand, but it's an expensive car for the Kia badge.
-Car is very heavy! 5148 lbs, and you can definitely feel the weight of it dragging against your early acceleration.
-Not in love with the appearance of it. It's basically a sporty Optima - better stance and brake vents.

I think there will be a lot of drivers that really enjoy this car; my wife certainly did.

4,000 lbs curb weight, you can pack it with another 1,000 lbs before you brake something.

Agree with the pros.. But curb weight is a lil over 3800lbs for RWD n a lol over 4000 for AWD.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Stinger

Sorry about that, I was going based off of the sticker inside the door. Should've done more research!

The sticker is GROSS weight reflects the weight if every passenger was in the car. It's an estimate. Curb weight is the actual weight of the vehicle.

Actually, the sticker is the GVWR, Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
It’s the max load of vehicle, fluids, and payload.
On heavy trucks, it is usually determined by axle rating.
Not sure what the limiting factor is with passenger vehicles.
You can still exceed an axleks limit if you distribute the weight <GVWR incorrectly.


GVWR - payload = curb weight
Curb weight - fluid = dry weight (which is what a lot of sports car manufacturers like to quote to show off how light their cars are. Because they think their customers are stupid).