yah, but to compete vs a mk7 GTI, ull need over 250hp cause the GTI's crank hp rating is sandbagged .. these cars churn over 220whp/270lb ft range in stock form easily. with a simple piggyback and light weight wheels, it's 370z territory..and im not kidding.

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The Juke will be on a new chassis, next gen. Probably the sentra will be on that same chassis next gen as well. Maybe even the Z too? We'll just have to see.

Sorry, do not care for VW, they are :supergay: IMHO.

Says a guy driving a whimpy CVT juke. Lol

Dey should make something like a juke-R awd but not so faking expensive.
Current juke isn't really good at anything besides rhyming with puke.

How much seat time you have in a Juke?

test drove the MT. i was looking to buy one a while back, but decided against it. it drove fine, light clutch, easy to drive but not really fast, terrible cargo space, rear seat room and foot wells cramped, not sure wat its strengths were besides the funky look.

id get the fiesta ST over it or the abarth for dat price if MT. and u still get ford and fiat's translations of funky comical look which actually looks better dan the juke..

I'll agree it is ergonomically bad, but the performance was pretty good in my experiences with the car. I had loads of fun in it but I preferred the AWD with CVT. YES I said it. Nissan's best cvt tune if all time is in the Juke. In fact, it's the only car with a cvt I truly like. Nissan hit it with the Juke AWD

CVT isn't necessarily bad on turbo cars. Continuous turbo pressure. I wonder how much power it can handle though.

Hey I resemble that!, and actually my Juke is my winter beater which is very good in the snow. Not a lot of people can say the have a 2014 Juke nismo awd winter beater, I can.

Oh and is a fun winter beater even with the cvt which I can turn into a virtual 7 speed ;)

There was a guy on Juke forums that had 200 All Wheel Horsepower and was not slipping. Same dude said from his experience of what he saw the engine would give before the cvt

Are juke nismo's rare in ur area? My local dealers had a bunch of dem on sale couldn't sell dem until dey were going for like 21k or something dirt cheap. For awd I'd go for subaru and do it right the first time. Is 200whp a big deal?

I would think the cvt would be able to handle at least 350HP if its the same as the altima n maxima?
If his engine was giving out, he possibly had to have done something wrong in the mod process with only 200awhp on it.?.

I haven't followed cvt transmissions since my 08 altima 3.5se which wasn't bad.... but the Juke is on top with that.

those altima cvt's are notorious for failures, no?

going back to topic though, this segment is really for those dat can only afford one car. dat means it needs to be able to do daily tasks well including carrying family and cargo. not sure why juke was even mentioned cause dey suck as a family car, yet not fast enough to call it a performance anything either (juke-r different story). it stuck itself into its own little niche.

its like they came in 1st place cause it was da only participant in da race.. da only commitment i see in the juke is der odd-ball looks.

Was not his engine, was one he saw on a dyno being retuned. They apparently turned the boost to 22lbs and BANG clatter clatter.... Oops! Could have been a variety of issues that caused it.

Kenchan, Nissan has had cvts for over ten years now and supplied by Jetco which is partially controlled by Nissan through shares. They did indeed used to be crap but are being perfected over time. Most people only comment when things go wrong which is why most of what you hear online is garbage.

And that "niche", is why we now have a variety of copycats made by Jeep, Fiat, Buick... Thank you Nissan for another industry first.

And as for rarity, I see a few here and there, but mostly basic Jukes on a daily basis. The reason most people do not go with the RS is because most people can't stand the hard Recaro Seats.

Sometime people do not want something that other people already have an over abundance of, which is why i bought a Z instead of the 10 million mustangs already on the road, plus I wanted a Nissan. If I wanted to follow the majority to fit in, I would have a Rustang and Subie in my driveway. What I have is different. Paying a bit more for it is fine by me.

To get back on topic, the above last comment is another reason why a sporty Sentra will sell too, some people want something different.

I seriously doubt other manufacturers copied the juke..

The Juke was conceptually an industry first.

Just like Nissan was the first to put DRM on an automatic transmission and SRM on a manual as with a lot of Nissan industry firsts. It's ok if u have hate for all the non Z Nissan's you want to. But give props where props is due.

Also, first to make a midsize pickup and midsize crew cab. And yet again, Chevy, dodge, ford, and Toyota followed.

Here's an in depth review of the sentra. In the end they hint at an SE-R and Nismo coming in these months. If that's the case like I expected? This is why I feel comparing the SR to a GTi is premature. Though I don't think the sentra will ever be a GTi killer this generation. It gives Nissan loyalists a more entertaining option to purchase.

https://youtu.be/FzUzGwLn3Cg

give me an example of where another brands copied da juke?

wat nissan needs to make is a versa note nismo with a 2L turbo dat can keep up with a fiesta ST or focus. it needs to be a hatch with 5 doors.. and actually quick. i mean quick like a mazdaspeed 3 at minimum.

:iagree: As a car manufacturer, they do a lot of things right. I don't necessarily hate their cars. I dislike the base Sentra very much because I drove one daily for over a year (another admittable irrational bias ;)).

But what I very much hate about Nissan is how they treat people. A perfect example is the legal battle they got into with an individual over the domain nissan.com. But one can also look at how they treat their paying customers - ESCL and CSC failure immediately come to mind on this forum. Unfortunately, this money-first mindset and ruthless business tactics is par for the course in big business these days :(

yah, their customer affairs is laughable. completely agree dere. but i suppose if dey dont have any other appealing offerings, we have nothing to worry about. infiniti folks get better treatment, i believe.

Let me clarify so my words cannot be skewed, others may not have copied the actual Juke, they copied the idea and have taken aim at the Juke. Since the Juke entered the market and with huge success, many others have entered their own versions of a mini compact SUV. When I bought my first Juke, a 2011 AWD S model brand new, they did not know how to classify the car. They called it an "AWD 5dr Wagon I4". Since others have entered the market they branded the type as "Mini Compact/Crossover SUV". Others in the segment are:

Fiat 500X 2014 - Present
Jeep Renegade 2015 - Present
Buick Encore 2012 - Present
Hyundai (unnamed to date) Coming 2017
Mazda CX-3 2015 - Present
Toyota C-HR Coming 2017
Kia Soul (2nd Gen) 2013 - Present

To name a few.

Infiniti is a luxury brand, of course they get better treatment. They get a certain class of people who buy them, people with more money....

Pretty sure VW exclusively builds cars on Fridays, then, based on my experience.

Off the top of my head...
Chevy Trax
Jeep renegade


The key word in my statement was "conceptually"

Night and day difference when I had my G37S

I am not always the best with words, "conceptually" is definitely what I meant.

and bad taste.. well, the Q50 RS ill let it pass. more money dan who? cause i would buy infiniti's if dey had something i wanted.

honestly i dont care for VW's, but mine has been fine. maybe because my GTI was made in mexico? might sound ironic but den it makes sense cause mexico's trying real hard right now to get in the game to make a name for themselves.

GTI and Golf-R are like da only 2 cars dat caught my eyes from VW. the rest are meh.. including A3's and A4's. primary reason waz i wanted to try da DSG. u know where im heading next.. GT-R territory.

Hydraulic steering and, a hand brake would put me in a Q60. So close but yet so far.


Performance wise, the Golf R is GREAT. What kept me out of it was it's the most BORING LOOKING CAR ON THE PLANET!!!! Yuck!!!

There's only one hot hatch I want. And that's the A45amg. Waiting for the confirmation if in fact it is coming in 2018

Hydraulic steering is definitely good but dat Q60 is butt ugly and huge.

Wat I like about the GTI is the simple styling with little accents here and dere just enough to make it comical looking. Too many cars out dere with crazyarse wavey lines. I understood why it was a benchmark of hot hatches. Plenty of modern tech inside too and fast. At least mine can easily keep up with a 370Z.

Benz really lost it in da design department. Dat hatch u mentioned. Fugly. I hate da current benz facia. Who dafaq messed with a great design dey had?

I'm the opposite. I think Benz is doing big and great things. Lol. But that's why different brands make different types of cars.
The only VW I find really visually pleasing is the CC. That's an awesome car. If it were reliable? I'd own one in a heartbeat. But vw is another German company filling mechanics pockets.

Meh.. u have bad taste. Lol

Yah I don't know much about VW but my GTI is cool.

https://youtu.be/1FkBvikVybM


The Nismo Sentra debuted. Now we could compare to a GTi

Yeahhhhh!!!! No we are talking about

So some of the highlights of this car will be

188hp/177lb tq. CVT/6 speed manual.

No 215 hp Nismo RS will be available. They are saying the car is perfectly balanced for cornering. It's not a drag car.

They're stating Michelin pilot sport 2 a/s. Good choice for the power level. Bolstered buckets and a high performance suspension.

Pricing under $25K. I doubt u can get this past $28K. Not terribly priced. Won't be faster than a GTi but I would love to get a handling comparison.

Again not expecting the Nismo to beat it. The GTi tops out at $36K before getting into R models. Thus Cari's 70hp short as well. But Nismo suspensions are excellent. And I'm sure there's something to compare.

It will be interesting.