FORD FOCUS RS $42,000 w/manual only tranny!

Zbo

Ya it was cool in 2009 replacing a cheap feel 350z, the sad part was it still wasn't that much better or the same quality as an s2000 for most to sell theirs and get a z because Of the price.guys who really ally wanted a Porsche surely weren't cross shopping Nissans z. Also we're approaching 2017 prototypes and concepts to be released and like I said Nissan is Getting left in the dust, the hot hatch segment is something even Honda is jumping in on.. Nissan they have no clue what they're doing for enthusiasts. They're also the worst consumer customer satfisfaction out of all Japanese brands. Leaders in recalls And that used to be ford! Which is the funny part.
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lovemyvq

When did this become a Ford vs Nissan thread? Or an econo crapbox vs a 2 door sports cars thread? Not necessarily directed at you Zbo just quoted you as a reference.

It's really simple to narrow down the demographic of focus svtrs buyers. 20 somethings that can't afford multiple platforms. Like somebody mentioned this car is kind of a multi tool. A dedicated track car it is not. If you've spent a decent amount of time at the track you'd see the hardcore junkies are driving stripped down, gutted cars with massive aero kits. Nobody brings a fully loaded, carpeted, tech packaged 5 door hatch back and expects to be even remotely competitive in circuit/series racing.

As far as catering to enthusiasts, who in the hell is a focus enthusiast lol. Nobody, that's who. The car is based on an economy crap box. Who cares what they charge for it. The Z has enthusiasts, the same goes for mustang, camaro, challenger etc. Also, they all share one thing in common. They are one of their kind. What I mean by that is there are no economy versions of the car at significantly lower price point/performance. Yes they offer smaller engines or option packages. But a Z is a Z and vette is a vette. There are no other versions of the car. Can any of these focus aficionados honestly claim the ford focus, in ANY iteration, has an enthusiast following (without sounding like they were dropped as babies).

Is the Z perfect, obviously not and none of the cars mentioned in this thread are perfect either. But the people buying it, for the most part and especially around here, are enthusiasts. We bought the Z for more than just the car itself. Words like lineage, heritage and predecessors come to mind. The focus simply can't make that claim. Furthermore, it is not going to draw potential buyers of true sports cars to it's camp. No cayman, Z, stang, vette etc buyer is going to look at the focus and think "wow screw 2 door sports cars and everything that comes with them, let me sign on the dotted line for that gussied up generic economy class car. I'm sure to get looks in that". Nor is any track junkie going to spend 42k on it and the beat the living hell out of it like track guys do.

UNKNOWN_370

I can't believe you quoted everything I just said and posted this?

I swear you are Jungle Z....

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Firebase99

All this speculation and all the platforms out that are ROUGHLY comparable I dont see a new Z being...how do I phrase it? Maybe "exponentially evolved". I.E., 400+ HP, lightweight, unreal suspension, mega tech. Not for a "at most" $35K sports car. Maybe theyll go retro, not with styling but, like the 86's, small, IDX style but hopefully VERY light, 2900 pounds, 300BHP, 300Tq. Throw the 2.0 turbo in, hands free everything, mobile phone apps, all the gadgetry my $32K Genesis has plus more. If they make it "bigger, badder, more powerful" to keep up with Detroit, youre basically looking at a Vette. There are NO 400hp+ 2 seat coupes on the market for $40K...and I dont think there will be for obvious reasons.

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The Dimer

I think Nissan has to decide whether they want to compete with the Mustang/Camarao/Challenger or the FRS/BRZ/Miata. I'd prefer it be the former and put out a revised 240sx type car to compete with the latter.

My fear is that they will continue to sit in between the two making it quite the niche car for those that just want the Z because it's a Z.

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Firebase99

There lies the problem. To really compete youre gonna need big HP. I think itll just cost more than Nissan is willing to commit to bring 400+HP, to a 2 seat coupe at under $40k. Thats why Detroit use big V8's. Nose heavy sleigh pushers, but cheap, cheap, cheap!! Sure Infiniti will probably boost the Q with a 6. Youre looking at $60K to start for 420hp. Hell take a 1/4 off that, would people pay $45k BASE model for a Z35? If it comes with leather, hands free everything, mobile apps and a kick *** interior, I will. But it wont.

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sunkist350z

Not mad just hate Ford would never buy on don't care how fast and cheap...its like buying a 42k civic lol die thread die lmfao!

Davey

Shhh... Adults are trying to talk about cars.

sunkist350z

Oh ok I thought you were talking about worthy cars worth 40k..got it

Davey

Here's a thought... If you don't like the topic, why don't you just unsubscribe from the thread...

jchammond

Are you trying to Focus? Bofus?
FORD=F'd Over Rebuilt Dodge!
This is a ~Z~ Thing!!!

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Official 2016 Ford Focus RS Pricing, Performance Estimates Released!

The focus will actually start at about $35,700, reported by FLD and when you add seat it will be about $36,600. Reported by C&D.
If in real life it can be had for $40K even loaded. It will be a good buy. It has Mustang GT performance numbers.
I'd rather buy a CLA or GLA AMG. But it's not a bad car now that I see all the features. Considering a CLA has a DCT and starts at $48,000 the dct alone justifies $for $12,000 of the price tag. I'd have to say my quality is worth saving the extra coin and going Benz... But I am not gonna knock the focus. Not bad...

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RicerX

There is absolutely merit in wanting to go that extra 10-20% in price for something that will feel like a complete performance car with all the refinements of a luxury car like the CLA AMG. I can attest to all the little things that add up in my Q50S coming from my Z as far as all of the interior amenities and creature comforts as well as the sporty handling that is also very refined over crappy roads. I can't imagine how much I would love my Q50 if it matched the CLA AMG's performance.

However, there are people that don't care about those things, and the Focus RS will be a fantastic car for them. I have realized after having my Q50 for a couple months that luxury sport really is my jam. I never thought I was that guy until I spent some time to experience it for myself (and could actually afford it unlike previous car buying opportunities).

b15

While I couldn't justify spending that much on a performance Ford Focus, I'll bet many focus and focus ST enthusiasts will justify this upgrade. I equate this as Ford's version of the STI.

The Dimer

I'd say that's pretty accurate, and they are probably trying to steal customers away from each other.

Focus = Impreza
Focus ST = WRX
Focus RS = STI

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