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And......it has begun. It didn't take long for Alfa Romeo's legendary reliability problems to begin. I'll admit that was quick. Even I thought it would be a little better than previous Alfa offerings. I guess the Chrysler influence sped things up.

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And......it has begun. It didn't take long for Alfa Romeo's legendary reliability problems to begin. I'll admit that was quick. Even I thought it would be a little better than previous Alfa offerings. I guess the Chrysler influence sped things up.

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Well, I wouldn't buy lilies and a black suit just yet.

That article seems to stem from one the other day in Road & Track detailing some problems with theirs and listing a number of other reviewers' cars that went down.

In an unprecedented move for Alfa Romeo...
Alfa CEO Responds to R&T

There can be no excuse for giving unprepared cars to journalists, and Alfa had better learn from this before they do the same with Giulia's new cousin, Stelvio. But software glitches in new cars are not unique to Alfa. Don't bury the hardware just because some of the software wasn't patched.

I have it from some respected US tuners that the platform is a solid one. But the early versions of ECU programming could not handle pressing the throttle and brake together - put the car into limp mode every time. That's likely what happened here. No, not all the faults were this. But I'm not going to condemn a model because one sunroof had problems closing, either.

The bigger issue with the Quadrifoglio version is that it eats tires when driven very hard. It's a 3,800+ lb 500+ HP RWD sedan, so that's not exactly a shock. Alfa found this out on the GP track at the Nurburgring when they reportedly ran out of rubber at a press day. I know someone who has 3,000 miles on his and is on his THIRD set of tires. A large percentage of those miles have been on a race track, and he doesn't let up just because he's driving a family saloon. Just ask the 911 Turbo drivers he's passed. Oh, and no idiot lights or issues for him, except that the stability control kicks in way too aggressively for tracking unless you are in RACE mode.

Finally, please note that a number of these agencies placed the Giulia and Giulia Q at the top of their segments despite the foibles they experienced. It might be wishful thinking, or it might be that (when it works) the car is just that good.

We'll see. Time will tell.
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