Bikers Attack Driver After Accident: Caught on Tape

jcosta79 · 10-02-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Castle doctrine is irrelevant to an altercation on public roads, and you are terrifyingly unfamiliar with Texas law.

TX allows for you to use force as necessary to stop trespassing, but you may not escalate to deadly force unless required.

In addition, the castle doctrine protects your habitation (which precedent indicates as covering a forced entry to or removal from a vehicle), but not "property" as you state. Detached garages and land have been declared as not covered under the law.

1. I was not trying to say it was the same as something that occurred on public roads. I was merely giving an example of the difference between two state's laws.

2. Here's everything you need to know about castle doctrine (or whatever you call it) here in TX: Everyone here is armed and everyone here WILL shoot you if they find you in their home. If you want to argue legal technicalities with a TX homeowner pointing a gun at you, go right ahead.

Tribalpinoy91 · 10-02-2013, 03:15 PM

Man thats crazy. I would of felt threatened and would have reacted the same way as the guy in the RR. Glad to be a PA Resident concealed weapons permit baaziing.

DEpointfive0 · 10-02-2013, 04:40 PM

Damn there are some funny memes online

SuperDave · 10-02-2013, 06:17 PM

Been following this whole thread, while I have my own opinions, they are in line with most of yours. Ill just drop this here:
LiveLeak.com - Same group of bikers attacking another driver in 2011

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 07:32 PM

Here's an easily digestible link for you on the topic:
I was in a minor car accident with an unlicensed but insured driver in NYS. Is that party at fault? - Avvo.com

I'm out for a bit traveling, will catch up on this thread next week.

Z_ealot · 10-02-2013, 07:41 PM

well looks like the original video containing the HD version that you can see one of the bikers trying to yank the range rovers drivers door open has been tooken down by the biker who posted it...little suspicious don't ya think? so, sorry red i can't get a screen shot now, but trust me if that video were to pop up again online somewhere in HD, please take a real close look at it and you can see what im talking about.

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

well looks like the original video containing the HD version that you can see one of the bikers trying to yank the range rovers drivers door open has been tooken down by the biker who posted it...little suspicious don't ya think? so, sorry red i can't get a screen shot now, but trust me if that video were to pop up again online somewhere in HD, please take a real close look at it and you can see what im talking about.

Cool. Interested to see it. Will help RR guy's case if they can show that.

KN21283 · 10-02-2013, 08:42 PM

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1380764175

he wouldn't hurt any one

cossie1600 · 10-02-2013, 08:43 PM

Facts are overrated chuck

Chuck33079 · 10-02-2013, 08:49 PM

Andre-

Bikers terrorize family in high-speed chase | New York Post

I'll post this again in the hopes you'll read it.

Red__Zed · 10-02-2013, 09:09 PM

CB here are more comments from lawyers. I'm interested to see a source for your claim that all 50 states automatically fault unlicensed drivers.

Car Accidents Can't Be Blamed on Driving Without a Valid License | Arizona Injury Lawyers

Car Accident, Unlicensed Driver in an Insured Car (Not at Fault)

Accidents with Unlicensed Drivers | Raleigh Legal Examiner | Raleigh North Carolina Personal Injury Lawyer

Unlicensed Driver, Car Accident, Not at Fault

KN21283 · 10-03-2013, 09:14 AM

JARblue · 10-04-2013, 09:57 AM

This is just outrageous!!

I blame the Whig party

jcosta79 · 10-04-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

This is just outrageous!!

I blame the Whig party

What's the Whig party?

andre12031948 · 10-04-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

What's the Whig party?

That was the beginning ^^^^ today it's called the "Tea party"

I am so dead!!! Got to stop reading posts

10-02-2013, 04:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
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Tribalpinoy91 Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 607 Drives: 370z PW Rep Power: 15	Man thats crazy. I would of felt threatened and would have reacted the same way as the guy in the RR. Glad to be a PA Resident concealed weapons permit baaziing.

10-02-2013, 07:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	Here's an easily digestible link for you on the topic: I was in a minor car accident with an unlicensed but insured driver in NYS. Is that party at fault? - Avvo.com I'm out for a bit traveling, will catch up on this thread next week.

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Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10091	well looks like the original video containing the HD version that you can see one of the bikers trying to yank the range rovers drivers door open has been tooken down by the biker who posted it...little suspicious don't ya think? so, sorry red i can't get a screen shot now, but trust me if that video were to pop up again online somewhere in HD, please take a real close look at it and you can see what im talking about.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Facts are overrated chuck

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	CB here are more comments from lawyers. I'm interested to see a source for your claim that all 50 states automatically fault unlicensed drivers. Car Accidents Can't Be Blamed on Driving Without a Valid License \| Arizona Injury Lawyers Car Accident, Unlicensed Driver in an Insured Car (Not at Fault) Accidents with Unlicensed Drivers \| Raleigh Legal Examiner \| Raleigh North Carolina Personal Injury Lawyer Unlicensed Driver, Car Accident, Not at Fault

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